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Really glad to hear you had a great experience running this us! Look forward to seeing you in fleet again!

Hey guys! Just wanted to share my POV about the Leshak, and provide a basic guideline about how you should fly this beautiful snowflake in a WTM fleet. So here goes nothing! Disclaimer: a lot of time passed and a lot of things changed in EVE (nowadays i feel like every other week something huge is changing) since i wrote this. So while most of it is probably still useful it has become just a little bit outdated by now, for example FC might ask you to shoot something different... Currently i dont feel like updating it. Maybe it will change in the future. Who knows. GENERAL TIPS: With every guide the first general and golden rule should always be: "USE COMMON SENSE, PLEASE!" So there you have it. Its not hard. You just have to think a little bit Second golden rule is: "ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR FC!" Maybe there is something unusual thing going on and fleet needs to react and adjust. Please do so! For example i will probably do unusual things nowadays when im FC The Leshak is not a "DPS", neither a "SNIPER" ship. Its a snowflake. If you want to fly it, then please fly it properly. Basically you will need to anchor yourself all the time, not following AAA or VVV around. Most of the times you need to shoot out of tagging order, something different. I really do expect all my Leshaks to actually put effort into flying their ships as long as they are in my fleet. Getting The Precursor Battleship Level up to 5 is super important. Its an amazing bump to your efficiency. For real. I mean sure, weapon spec to 5 is nice too, but you can leave it temporarily at 4 in order to train Battleship Level 5. Its way more important! Always try to use the Occult ammo. You should use Mystic only when you enter a pocket and you are burning into position, or if you are finishing a wave and you are prepping for the next one but still removing the remnant of the wave. Veles gun is actually better than T2 gun even if you have weapon spec 4. And its not that expensive. T2 gun is however better at spec 5. WTM does allow Veles gun, but bear in mind you have to have at least weapon spec 1 and you have to be able to use T2 ammo in order to fly with WTM. This ship is all about its weapon spool-up. You should aim to shoot a single ship continuously as long as possible, preferably with Occult. Its basically a guessing game: you need to guess the ship that normally would die last on the grid. And shoot that ship. When it dies you just simply reset the game. Exceptions: - Spawn Trigger Ships: you need to exclude those from this game for obvious reasons. - Outuni Mesen: if there are 3 on the grid (or 2 and FC says so) at the same time then they are just too dangerous to completely ignore them in a shield fleet. Even if you are a Leshak. So they come before the game. Don't be scared to break the spool-up of the Mystic if you know you can shoot with Occult around 20 times or more after the switch on the same boat. Don't be afraid of burning as much as you want. This ship has mad cap stability. Use it! Keep at range 15 km on your main target is a really easy way to keep the spool going until they go poof. Especially if they are burning somewhere. If they are 20 or more km away, that's where you can start worrying about breaking the spool with Occult. I'd suggest to adjust your position if they are more than 20 km away. You should always shoot something. There is no excuse to ever stop shooting with this ship. You have everything in order to do so: You can switch ammo instantly, you can always burn whenever you are not in range cuz you have the cap for it and you have a ridiculously short cycle time. Jack of all trades. In my opinion utility high slots are less important for the Leshak in a WTM fleet. So if you are missing some fitting space (PG or more likely CPU) you can try to adjust your fitting by using up less on the high slots. Nevertheless if anyone feels like stuffing one or maybe two remote armors to utility highs feel free to do so! The ship indeed has a bonus for it. Just be careful about the tight CPU fitting limit. But more importantly as a Leshak you should never broadcast for cap if you are not neuted, so please dont cap yourself out with them! Overloading: in case of contest you can easily continuously overheat your single gun during almost (if not) the whole site! You can train relevant skills for better results of course, but just try it out! Experience your personal limit with it! Just don't burn out your gun pretty please. In "NRF" site (see below) depending on fleet comp and fleet numbers you always want to adjust your targets. I know. This is actually "hard". But after a site or two you will get a good feeling about your fleet. If snipers need help, you shoot sniper targets. If DPS needs help, you shoot DPS targets. Its not a big deal if you make a mistake with this, don't worry. As long as you are shooting, you are good! But properly adjusting yourself for fleet needs with a Leshak means shorter site time. I will write a few examples later on. With multiple Leshaks in fleet you guys can communicate with each other and try to not shoot the same target. Remember: the longer the spool the shorter the site time! Altho' be careful to not flood voice comms. Maybe its best to just use Fleet Chat. Example: "s4" means you are shooting (spooling) on tag 4. Of course this is getting harder with more Leshaks in fleet. I do understand that but again as long as you are shooting and try your best, you are good. Expect damage agro! If you are doing everything correctly with proper skill set and good fit then don't be surprised that damage agro lands on you. It means you are doing your job and being pretty good at it! So anticipate some agro switch on your ship, be on the lookout and please broadcast on time, like everyone should! Taking fleet roles with the Leshak is not the best idea. - You should never try to MTAC (lack of agility, gun range problem, but most importantly possible niarja jam which can ruin your and your fleets whole day). - You should probably not try to AAA (you dont have enough range to shoot properly). - You should not try to DDD or HHH (lack of webs). - You might be able to VVV in it, but its not really optimal to do so (lack of agility now even more so after nerf). - You already have a unique role in fleet. Its called "Leshak"! SITE BY SITE GUIDE: I'll try to give you examples here. Mostly just presuming you are the only Leshak in fleet. Sometimes you have to adjust your targets depending your fleet as i wrote above. I'm sorry this is not a sandbag ship, you actually have to use your brain, not just your eyes Hey now! Don't blame me! You chose to fly it. True Power Provisional Headquarters (TPPH) First pocket: Usually you start Mystic on Outuni and burn to Occult range of the second tagged Osti (in most fleets it should be tag 5). When you are there immediately switch to Occult and shoot it until its dead. - If fleet is really light on numbers, then you do the same, just Occult the Outuni and then Occult the healthiest Osti! -If fleet is really fast, you can just start with Osti! Second pocket: Burn to the second Osties and spool on them. - If fleet is sniper light you should burn to 2nd Antem and Occult it. If you are super-sniper light then i guess you need to shoot the Mara as well before Antems. Remember: do not burn much while shooting the Mara, cuz it ruins your tracking. - If fleet is low on numbers then kill Mara and then Occult the second Osti. -If fleet is really fast, you can just start with Osti! Third pocket: - First wave: Spool on Osties. When there are only 2 Osties left (or when FC says) burn to your one and only anchor spot which should be 80 km from beacon and 20 km to the left from the tower (exactly where the last VVV spot is). Important!!! Don't shoot the last tagged Osti (usually tag 9 or Z). If super-sniper light you might need to help out with killing the Mara at the beginning of this wave. - Second wave: Start with the second to last Osti tag. Again, its important to not shoot the last, wave trigger Osti (9 or Z)! After it goes poof you can help out with killing Romies or just spool on something that you think is best (except the wave trigger). If fleet is light on numbers you should primary the Intaki and then go business as usual. - Third wave: Spool on Osties, then whatever is left. You should try to even kill the very last frig on grid if that's the only thing preventing you from tower bash. After tower spawns Occult it, drone it and enjoy your bio! Nation Rebirth Facility (NRF) First Wave: Burn to Ostis and kill them. When you can, switch to Occult! When it dies find the next best thing to spool on. When there is only 2 Battleships left (or when FC says so) burn to your first anchor spot: 90 km from beacon, 50 km to the right from tower. Just about 20-ish km from AAA. The goal is to be in Occult range of the spawning Yulais. - If light on snipers then you might need to help out with Vylade(s) or even with Mara(s) as well. - If light on DPS then change your anchoring to roughly around DPS anchor spot cuz you gonna shoot Osties next wave! Second wave: Occult Yulais! Preferably backwards, but you should start shooting them even if there are no tags yet. Remember, spooling time is everything for this ship! When Yulais are dying shoot whatever is left and burn to next DPS anchor spot (you can look for VVV guide or for the actual on-site VVV for help). - If fleet is light on DPS or sniper heavy then you should shoot Osties backwards in this wave. Third wave: Occult Yulais first, then whatever is left! If there are only 3 ships left on grid you should start burning to VVV last anchor spot. Rough positioning is enough (say +-5 or 10 km doesn't matter) Fourth wave: This is when it becomes a little bit tricky. you can easily find yourself out of position in this wave. Don't worry about it too much. Unless fleet is light on numbers you should primary either Osties (DPS need help) or Yulais (Snipers need help). - Stay about 30km to AAA to ensure you are still in logi range and Occult Osties or Shoot Yulais with whatever ammo you can reach them. - If fleet is DPS light or you have faith in Snipers to finish the job without you then you should simply shoot Osties backwards with Occult of course. - If fleet is low on numbers you should shoot Outunies, then Intakies. After that Osties. Remember: never stop shooting until payout, please! True Creations Research Center (TCRC) After entrance spool on Outunis and start burning to the tower. Be careful to not be completely out of logi range due to early burning! In all fairness that's actually pretty hard to achieve in this site. Nevertheless you should better check! After Outunis died Occult the tower ASAP and never stop until it blows up. You should sit next to Vindicators nice and close, zero on the Tower for reasons you can find in one of my posts in this thread. In case of jam you re-spool on the tower and cry silently (F). When tower hits 50% hull lock up the warp disrupting ships (usually just Schmaels and Auga). At 20% hull you should recall drones and start to align to your FC's broadcast. After tower start shooting the "scrams". When "scrams are clear" and your FC tells you to warp you leave the site with the rest of the battleships. Be super careful in this site! Chances are if you are doing everything correctly, then at some point there will be a huge agro switch onto you! On-time broadcast is essential to stay alive in a TCRC! The Kundalini Manifest (MOM) After entrance you start burning to the Kundi and start shooting The first tagged Outuni if present. If not then the first tagged Arnon. If there are no Outunis and no Arnons then i guess you can try to shoot the Bombers while you are burning to the Kundalini. Do Not Bump It Pretty Please! Should keep at range 15 km! When you are in Occult range you start spooling on it ASAP. Its really important, because your ship is literally designed for something big, like this. In case of jam you start to shoot the Kundalini again. You never stop shooting it until its dead. And then enjoy the payout. ADVANCED TIPS: I would like to point out that you already spent a huge amount of ISK to get this ship into WTM. So while you are at it you should probably go all the way and do the bling properly. Pimp it out as much as possible! This of course includes Abyssal Rad Sinks (at the very least 23% increase or more), and Augmented Ogres! T2 Rad Sinks are pretty bad and Factions are super expensive. So your best bet is a nice Abyssal Sink. The only modules not really important in this ship are the utility high slots. In case of a contest you can go really crazy with overheating your gun cuz this ship can actually take it. A lot will depend on you when it comes to a TCRC contest! Try to shoot the tower as soon as possible and try to overload all the way! Be careful tho', you really don't want to burn your gun out. You can equip a Mobile Depot and a local Sensor Booster with ECCM Script into your cargo hold. When it comes to TCRC tower bash after burning into position you can drop the Depot, switch your MWD to the SeBo and try to resist those Niarja jams. BE AWARE! You need to refit again switching back the MWD when the tower is at 50% hull. Also don't forget to scoop your Depot before you start aligning out! A lot of possible mistakes come with this, so you need your A-Game, or don't even try it. You can go full-on nuts and get several guns into your cargo hold and just switch them when they are close to burning out. Only possible with a friendly Orca/Nestor around or at the very beginning of a TPPH tower bash with an earlier deployed Depot. This way you don't have to go to a Citadel every time you overheated your gun. You can paste the utility high modules, but the gun would be too expensive. Never stop thinking about what else you could do to improve! I'm pretty sure there are plenty other tips and tricks with this ship, but i should probably stop for now. My personal take on recommended implants (disclaimer: it's not going to be cheap, but it also won't be "ultra-high end"): High-grade Ascendancy Alpha (player market) High-grade Ascendancy Beta (player market) High-grade Ascendancy Gamma (player market) High-grade Ascendancy Delta (player market) High-grade Ascendancy Epsilon (player market) Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Warp Drive Speed WS-618 (available in Concord LP Store) Ogdin's Eye Coordination Enhancer (player market) Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-806 (available in Concord LP Store) Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Gunnery RF-906 (available in Concord LP Store) There is really no useful implant here for a shield Leshak so far, only an armor buffer: Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1006. Would not really recommend to buy this for a WTM fleet. Hoping for a weapon +6% damage sometime in the future but i doubt its happening. Updates: 1. Leshak's tracking is not as good with t2 ammo as it was when i originally wrote this. Shooting a frig with t2 ammo is actually painful now. 2. Thankfully there are more Leshaks nowadays in fleet than just 1 or 2. So in NRF you might want to think about splitting in-fleet Leshaks between Yulais and Osties.3. Logies are recommended to bring light combat drones now, so at least one remote armor repper would be pretty cool and recommended on each Leshak. Okay... This has gotten much bigger than i thought it would. Sorry about that. If anything else comes to my mind i will adjust / remove / add things if and when i feel like it. Feel free to share your own thoughts below!

Line Pilots are now allowed to fly T3 Logistic Cruisers. Currently, only the Loki will be accepted into fleets. In order to Fly a T3 Cruiser, a pilot must first prove that they are a capable Logistics pilot by earning the Trusted Logi badge from a WTM Line Commander. Once a pilot has the Trusted Logi badge, they may apply to fly T3s. The application includes a skill check and some questions regarding the differences between flying T2 and T3 Logi. Pilots who are approved will receive an “Approved T3” badge from a Certified Trainer on Teamspeak. Only those with the badge are allowed to fly T3s. Please ensure you are connected to the WTM Teamspeak when you x-up your T3 so the FC can confirm your badge. Approved T3 Logistic Pilots must always x up with a Logistics Cruiser V Basilisk in addition to the T3 and be willing to switch as needed. Rep Application: T3 Logi use 8 Medium Remote Shield Boosters vs the T2 Logi’s 4 Large Remote Shield Boosters. The medium reps have a much shorter optimal range (7km vs 32km), and less repping power per rep than the Large but the additional modules (8vs4) allow the T3 logi to outrep T2 logi at any distance. When applying reps, 1.5 medium reps are equivalent to 1 Large Rep; so, in a situation where you would normally apply 2 large reps, you want to use 3 medium reps. T3 cruisers get large bonuses to Overheating: the Offensive subsystem skill increases the benefits of overheating by 50%. T3 pilots therefore should expect to use heat far more liberally. Anchoring: For the TPPH and NRF it is not really necessary to do anything different than T2 Logi (orbit AAA at 10km). For the TCRC, enter as normal and set up orbit on AAA. Once the tower bash starts, orbit a ship closer to the tower (a Leshak is recommended). T2 vs T3 Benefits: T2 logi bring utility to the fleet in the form of Combat Caps, Remote Sensor Boosters and Remote Tracking Computers. T3 logi do not bring any utility. T3 logi rep harder than T2 logi. T3 logi are also more tanky than their T2 counterparts; therefore, they can more freely use their reps. Getting aggro in the T3 is not as dangerous as a T2 logi. Skill Requirements: T3 cruisers require extensive skills to perform at their best. All of the following skills are mandatory for T3 pilots. Ship skills: Strategic Cruiser IV Subsystems: Offensive V Core V Propulsion IV Defensive I Engineering Capacitor Management V Capacitor Systems Operation V CPU Management V Hull Upgrades IV Power Grid Management V Shield Emission Systems V Thermodynamics IV Nanite Interfacing IV Navigation Navigation V Acceleration Control IV Afterburner IV Evasive Maneuvering IV Fuel Conservation IV Shields Shield Management V Shield Upgrades IV Tactical Shield Manipulation IV Targeting Advanced Target Management III Note: in the event that you lose a T3 ship and therefore a subsystem skill level, you are not permitted to fly a T3 again until your skills meet the requirements specified above. Other Rules and Regulations: All Tech III Logistics ships must use 8x Pithum A-Type Medium Remote Shield Boosters. All Tech III Logistics ships must be 6 rep stable. All Tech III Logistics ships must use Tech II Afterburners, at minimum; MWD’s are not permitted. All Tech III Logistics ships must meet or exceed 75% in all shield resistances without Command Bursts. All Tech III Logistics ships must be capable of reaching 50,000 Effective Hit Points (EHP) without Command Bursts. The Loki requires the Dissolution Sequencer subsystem. Fits: T3 Application

Abyssals are great. But not everyone has 4-12 billion for a full rack of super high grade abyssals. So, here are some of the fundamental tricks to getting a significant bonus to your performance at a reasonable price. 1: Use https://mutaplasmid.space/. It allows you to sort by statistics, which is a massive help with the next steps in this guide. 2: Pick a budget. It's most worth looking at abyssals if you have at least 100m/module budgeted if you have faction modules already (leshaks excepted) or 50m/module if you have t2. Below this, you're hoping for lowballs but you can get lucky. Your budget generally is going to want to split 30/30/20/20 for the 1/2/3/4 damage module slot, meaning you want to spend more per module on your first two than the rest. Suggested ranges are 100m/mod (faction equivilent + a little) 200m/module 500m/module and 1b if going full rockstar (usually top of 3: Find a good first module to build around. This means picking a module with the best alpha or ROF you can find inside your budget, without tanking the overall DPS %. Refer to the table below for percentages and top end stats. 4: Match this with a good second module. This one you look for ROF if your first module is alpha, and alpha if your first module was focused on ROF. See the theory section in below for why. 5: Find the 2 best overall DPS % multipliers in your remaining budget. 6: enjoy your increase in performance. Magnetic field stabilizers / Heat sink / Gyrostabilizer: T2 Unrolled: Damage modifier 1.1 Rate of fire: 10.5% Overall: 22.9% Max rolls Damage modifier 1.122% Rate of fire: 12.738% Overall: 28.6% Faction Unrolled: Damage modifier 1.12 Rate of fire: 11% Overall: 25.8% Max rolls Damage modifier 1.142% Rate of fire: 13.225% Overall: 31.7% Top officer Unrolled: Damage modifier 1.15 Rate of fire: 11% Overall: 28.7% Entropic Radiation Sink T2 Unrolled: Damage modifier 1.13 Rate of fire: 6% Overall: 20.2% Max rolls Damage modifier 1.153% Rate of fire: 8.35% Overall: 25.8% Faction Unrolled: Damage modifier 1.15 Rate of fire: 7% Overall: 22.6% Max rolls Damage modifier 1.163 Rate of fire: 9.325% Overall: 28.2% Top officer Unrolled: Damage modifier 1.15 Rate of fire: 8% Overall: 25%

Hey guys. I had a random convo on Slack the other day asking me to give out my POV about the DDD role. As per usual it triggered me (in a good way this time) and i got drawn into the convo more and more, turning it into one of those hour-long teaching moments of mine. It is a really raw copy-pasted format and kind of "niki-blunt" . But maybe it turned out to be something sharing worthy. If its useful for you then im glad. But im not really looking for anything else with this topic. I just wanted to share. Without further comment here is the convo itself: Anonymous [6:12 AM] You're probably offline atm, but any advice / suggestions on DDD after tonight? niki [6:13 AM] could you copy your fit here Anonymous [6:20 AM] [Vindicator, Vindication] Damage Control II Domination Tracking Enhancer Domination Tracking Enhancer Abyssal Magnetic Field Stabilizer Abyssal Magnetic Field Stabilizer Abyssal Magnetic Field Stabilizer Abyssal Magnetic Field Stabilizer 500MN Abyssal Microwarpdrive Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Abyssal Stasis Webifier Abyssal Stasis Webifier Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II Ogre II x5 Null L x5180 Nanite Repair Paste x500 Void L x10036 Agency 'Pyrolancea' DB3 Dose I x17 niki [6:21 AM] so whats the abyssals strength and % ? i mean range and strength % Anonymous [6:21 AM] what do you mean range? niki [6:22 AM] web range and web strength Anonymous [6:22 AM] the webs are 15.5km each and 82.7,81.4% web niki [6:22 AM] the web Anonymous [6:22 AM] (on the vindi, of course) niki [6:22 AM] gal bship 5 or 4 ? Anonymous [6:23 AM] (base strength is ~63% each) gallente 5 niki [6:23 AM] 15+ kms and 60+ % webs are pretty awesome to ddd with. and minmatar bship level? Anonymous [6:23 AM] only 3 =/ niki [6:23 AM] yeah so 2 things first and foremost get faction (cal navy is the most common to use) antimatter its better than nul whenever the frigs are closer than 20 km and its always better than void if its frig shooting 2nd thing get minmatar bship to 4 at least 5 would be better ofc also needless to say gunnery support skills and blaster spec is important too Anonymous [6:26 AM] all support at 5, blaster spec 4 niki [6:26 AM] thats pretty good... obviously all relevant skills on 5 would be best with the suggested implants included as well for vindis. that is the high-end. Anonymous [6:26 AM] (just bumped min BS to 4) niki [6:28 AM] gameplay wise i split my guns 4-4. if you kill one maybe you can spare 4 guns for the next which is a huge deal. webbing 2 different frigs shoot 1 until it dies shoot the other one but meanwhile start webbing a 3rd cuz you need the webs to actually apply. essentially you always need 1 more frig to be already webbed so you can instablap it or close to doing so. dont forget to always fill your locks thats actually one of the biggest mistakes a battleship can do. specially true for DDD. you can tell that you are doing a good job if you always feel like you are racing with yourself. guns vs webs. a close race. Anonymous [6:29 AM] ok. I've tried doing that in the past, but I've worried about wasting the drone effort, with them continually chasing new targets. but then, the drones are just bonus anyway... niki [6:29 AM] forget the drones. they dont exist. Anonymous [6:29 AM] ok niki [6:29 AM] just trust in yourself. you can do it without drones. and if you train yourself then after a while it doesnt matter if you dont have any drones. in some fleets you actually will lack light drones anyway. relying on them is a mistake imo. they are just a little extra/bonus. Anonymous [6:30 AM] tonight, I did have my guns split, but I wasn't leapfrogging targets. I was staggering webs and guns though, so I'd have a new half more often niki [6:30 AM] try to not burn too much around . just some cuz it ruins your tracking. Anonymous [6:30 AM] right I did notice that niki [6:31 AM] if the frigs are not on the way where you are needed to go and more than 20 kms away then just stop, load null and hope for best. if you are not moving your tracking is much better. sometimes ppl will pull the frigs away. if its temporary then dont even switch to null cuz in 20 seconds they are going to burn back anyway. if you feel like its gonna be more than 20-30 sec then switch to null. if the frigs are actually on your way then try to burn just 1 cycle and then slowboat and stop when they are in webrange the drones are actually helpful when you cant reach out with webs and you are shooting with null cuz then it takes ~10+ sec to kill 1 frig you can try to overheat web if you feel like you are behind on the schedule and you need just a few extra kms to reach out. webs dont burn out easily and just a few paste is enough to rep them while in warp Anonymous [6:34 AM] ok niki [6:34 AM] and they stop overheating after the frig dies anyway TPPH all first waves i'd burn 1 cycle to exitgates or anchorspot . then slow down and if you are in webrange stop NRF is easiest site as DDD just gotta make sure you have a good tempo in first 2 waves TCRC is an interesting site you can try go greedy kill schmaels before you reach the tower but its actually hard to complete . and also sometimes you need to switch to niarjas anyway or just try to kill niarjas only, burn into position and then try to schmael at the tower. somewhere in between is still fairly easy Anonymous [6:38 AM] yea, I was doing something in between tonight on the TCRC niki [6:38 AM] in tpph i always try to kill schmaels first cuz its easiest to web the first few frigs before aggro switch, and schmaels are hardest to kill as far as frigs go also forget about acronyms if you cant reach some frig with webs, always target the one that you actually can. webs are ensuring you gonna kill that frig really really fast if its not webbed its gonna die significantly slower. so range is more important than some "shooting order". except ofc if FC wants to bounce from site then scrams are priority. if i can choose freely cuz a lot of frigs are in range and we are not bouncing i prio webbers whenever i can (1st schmael 2nd renyn) cuz it helps the fleet the most. but obviously niarja must die first, no matter what. Anonymous [6:40 AM] right niki [6:40 AM] but yeah antimatter is a great help. nowadays i do 8k null 10k anti the rest void in vindi shoot antimatter most times, null if you need to constantly kill frigs more than 20 kms away . void is okay in tpph last wave and nrf 3rd 4th wave cuz you shoot only very few frigs in those. you have tons of time and you will probably be on top of them and you can web them anyway. and in those waves you will shoot cruiser or bship too Anonymous [6:43 AM] ok niki [6:43 AM] in tcrc i usually switch to void after all the schmaels are dead and im just chilling shooting tower and looking for respawner niarja niarja is a really easy frig to kill. Anonymous [6:44 AM] yea, the niarja blap easy niki [6:45 AM] tough frigs order : schmael >>> eystur > renyn >>> tama >>> niarja hardest to easiest to kill. (not a shooting order ofc, lol) Anonymous [6:46 AM] ok thanks for all this. I'll keep at it. hopefully I have more opportunities to take DDD =P niki [6:49 AM] no problem its fun. i actually enjoy ddd in tpph. otherwise its a pretty boring site. but i still really enjoy doing even that one if i can snatch ddd Anonymous [6:50 AM] yea. it was fun to race the rest of the fleet niki [6:56 AM] oh and always ask for 2xtracking . if they offer a 3rd ask for 1 range. but 1 tr 1 opti is not as good as 2xtr no matter who says what. Anonymous [4:17 PM] ok. one other question is if there's ever anything other than frigates that the DDD shoots before frigates? Like does the DDD follow full fleet calls for the Arnon/Outuni in TPPH 3rd-3rd, the Mara/Vylade in NRF 3rd and Outuni in 4th, and the Outuni in TCRC? I'm pretty sure the HHH does follow those calls (right?) but what about DDD? niki [5:07 PM] for DDD tpph 3rd 3rd shoot 2nd outuni then frigs . nrf 3rd mara(s) then frigs , nrf 4th if there are 3 outunis. then the 3rd outuni . TCRC niarjas are more important to shoot than the 2 outuni. if niarjas are down you can shoot 2nd outuni if you want but fleet should be pretty close to kill them. HHH : TPPH 3rd 3rd you should shoot second outuni then vylade then leftovers. NRF 3rd you should shoot mara(s) then vylade. NRF 4th vylade , except if there are 3 outunis. then the 3rd outuni first. TCRC you should not have any drones assigned, so you are just a vindi, not HHH. shoot in order. Anonymous [5:10 PM] ok, cool UPDATE: After Surgical Strike Patch Void is more powerful. If you are confident with your tracking (better be close to 20 at least) you can try to use Void more often to blap them frigates. At the moment (2020 May) I am usually bringing 8k Null, 5k Anti and the rest is Void to fill up cargohold to max. But you know... im pretty confident :smirkcat:

Reference for wrecks progress markers: TPPH: 2 Auga 1 outuni no deltole : 1st room 3 Auga 1 deltole 1 outuni : 2nd room 2 Mara 1 deltole : 3rd room 1st wave 2 mara 2-3 deltole 1 outuni : 3rd room 2nd wave 3 outuni : 3rd room 3rd wave (aka about to hit tower bash) NRF: 1-2 deltole / 1-2 mara / 1-2 vylade : 1st wave 1st wave + antem/yulais : 2nd wave 2-4 mara / 2-4 vylade : 3rd wave Intaki/outuni : 4th wave keep in mind NRF spawns are random so it's kinda hard to gauge progress with these alone, keep an eye on number of wrecks as well TCRC: Hard to gauge, would just keep a timer on when a fleet takes gate and number of niarja wrecks + if drones are out / being pulled in *Might not be really accurate so feel free to criticize

WTM Upgrade Policy What is the policy and what does this mean for me? WTM Incursions welcomes new pilots to come try out incursions with us, and we have provided several affordable options for entry-level battleships that let you get into fleet without breaking the bank. However, over time we ask that you invest in making yourself and the fleet more effective, which includes getting set up in a ship that is well-suited for incursion running. Our list of Optimal ships includes the Vindicator, Nightmare, Leshak and Logi. If you aren’t flying an optimal hull yet, then we ask that you upgrade to an optimal hull with a proper fit (which can be found on our fitting website) within 30 in-fleet hours. Based on average fleet earnings, this should give you more than enough income to fit up a ship as well as helping towards covering your monthly Plex costs. After upgrading into an optimal hull, we ask that you begin training into Tech 2 guns for your preferred ship type. You will have 4 months of time frame or 90 in-fleet hours. Based on average fleet earnings this should give you enough time to train the skills naturally or earn enough to purchase skill injectors. If you are already flying an optimal fit, thank you! We recommend that you continue to upgrade your ship with better damage mods, tank mods, and implants. Feel free to ask questions in WTM Incursions on how to become better! Why: We want to run incursion fleets the best we can and in order to that requires investment from you! Many veterans have already invested in themselves and in fleet without this policy, however, some pilots have decided that sandbagging is okay. It’s not! For this reason upgrading is a requirement. This all sounds great but I ___ (been busy) and haven't upgraded yet, can I still join fleet? Yes! You can still x-up with any ship that meets our fitting requirements. However, out of fairness the FC may skip over you if there is limited space in fleet and others waiting in line who are following the policy. We understand that life can take some crazy and unexpected turns so please speak to a member of Command Core if you feel that you have exceptional circumstances. Thanks for improving yourself, improving fleet, and for flying with us! See you in fleet!

If you're new, and you get in my logi wing, I'll say these things to you. Even if you've read this post, I'm gonna say them. Also, yes, that's how long it takes to say this stuff in voice; those speed runs through "Fox In Socks" finally paid off. -- Logi have four jobs: join your logi chat and do what they tell you, move, rep people who broadcast for shield, and basi's have to keep the cap chain going. Setting up As soon as you join fleet, hit the link in fleet MOTD to join basi-chat or scimi-chat. Say "Hi," give your Logistics Cruiser level and how many links/resebo's you have. Join and say hi even if you don't have any links, don't make me hunt you down and ask. Add AAA to your watchlist. If you're a basilisk, add your cap buddies. If your logi-chat gives you link or resebo targets, add them too. Make sure your fleet window's open. You'll need the "My Fleet" tab to find us for the first time, then switch to the "History" tab so you can see shield broadcasts. Move! The instant you land in a site, find your AAA in your watchlist and orbit him at 10km. Turn on your prop mod. Stay like this forever. First exception to this rule: In the first two rooms of a TPPH site, find the EXIT gate, and orbit that at 500m. When any battleship gets up next to the gate, switch your orbit to the battleship. Second exception: at times, the FC will send an "align" broadcast. Align and turn your prop mod OFF. This always happens at the end of a TCRC, and occasionally at other times. Rep people. Lock up every person who broadcasts for shield asap. Every last one, all of them, no exceptions. Use your judgement as to how much rep to drop on which people. Some folks just have a troll frigate nibbling them, some get the whole room. Try not to run all four reppers at once. It attracts aggro and makes you slow to help a new person when Sansha change targets. Stagger your reps. Don't drop several reppers on a person at once, do it like "REP one thousand REP two thousand REP". Cap chain Basilisks always cap up. Cap the person who's immediately above you in the user list of basi-chat; if you're the top of the list, cap the guy on the bottom. Basilisks ABOVE a basi with Logistics 4 also cap down. If the number next to your name in basi-chat MOTD is RED, you're above a L4 basi, use your second transmitter to cap them. Send cap to your cap buddies on gates! We hang eighty billion isk worth of battleships off that cap chain, testing it is important. Basilisks with a free cap transmitter send cap to fleet. Watch for cap broadcasts. If you have a free transmitter, type the first few letters of the guy's name in basi-chat, lock him, and start capping. If somebody types "FRED" just as you were planning to cap Fred, you can either find another cap target or just type "+" to say "I'm capping him too." If we get more cap broadcasts than we can handle at once, send each person three or four cycles of cap and move on to the next one. If you get neuted out or jammed, you can't send cap, and your friends have to deal with that. Tell basi-chat by typing "NNN" (for neuts) or "JJJ" (for jams.) Type "-NNN" or "-JJJ" when the effect ends. Some people also type "WWW" when they're webbed. If the basi you are capping gets neuted out, jammed, or blown up, deal with it by using your second cap transmitter to send cap to THEIR cap buddy. Sometimes this gets complicated and the LC has to tell people where to send their combat caps; when this happens, listen and do what they're telling you. Sites - Each site we do has a particular moment that gives the logi fits. Know them. TPPH - In the third room, on the third wave, there are three Arnons (which jam) and two Outunis (which neut). All combat caps go to the Outuni's target. NRF - The fourth and final wave contains 1-3 Outunis. All combat caps to the Outuni target! After 20-30 seconds, back off to two reps on the person getting hit, because in 45 seconds the entire room switches to a new target, all at once. TCRC - The instant you land, lock up AAA and start repping him. Two seconds later, we get attacked by Outunis, Deltoles (which do EVERYTHING) and Niarjas (jams). Aggro goes everywhere, half the fleet broadcasts for shields, and at least one basi gets neuted out or jammed. If a Scimitar takes aggro during this part, throw armor bots at them immediately, the room can alpha right through their shields and well into armor. Finish your coffee before we go in, please.