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NilesGrey

Possible Logi 3 entry Scimi

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Due to a player in Warpto Logi asking about being able to fly a scimitar at Logi 3, I started playing around and discovered this as a Level 3 Logi, Level 4 Cap Management (or Level 4 Shield Emission Systems) possible low-cost entry point.  This fit also doesn't require any implants to be stable.  For approximately 381 million isk this modification of the Logi IV Standard Fit will get a player training naturally into fleet approximately 4 days sooner than the standard fit: 

[Scimitar, Logi 3]
Power Diagnostic System II
Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay
Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay
Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay

10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Dark Blood Cap Recharger
Dark Blood Cap Recharger

Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

With Logi being such a tough entry point anything that gets them rolling into fleets faster/makes them more accessible seems like a good idea.  Take a look and any suggestions/comments would be appreciated.  If you guys like it what would be the right steps to add it to the approved fit site?

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I personally dont think we should play around any kind of idea of logi 3. Even logi 4 is not that great for what we do. We should not lower this requirement in my opinion.

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I agree with the above, even allowing Logi 4 is a low standard. If people can't be bothered to train Logi 4, they probably can't be bothered to fill a lot of supports that the above fit depends on. Even with all the bling, this can only manage 3-stable when missing 1/3 of the 2 cap skills and shield emissions 5. You're using isk to cover skills deficit on a known squishy ship, it's not a good way for a newbro to start.

To put it another way, if I had an excited newbro who's big on logi with at least Logi 4 in his training queue, then yeah I'd consider getting him in with this fit on a one-time basis. However, I would strongly oppose putting it on our public recommendations.

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I actually figured out a better option that is cap stable with 0 bling price tag of only 285.3 million:

[Scimitar, Test]
Power Diagnostic System II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

10MN Afterburner II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Cap Recharger II

Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Sorry should have updated this sooner :D

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Pretty close, yes but it's stable for a level 3 logi.  Though as you guys said, it's a moot point when it takes approximately 270 days to meet minimum skill reqs (excluding skill injectors) for WTM logi and only 100 days to skill into a DPS/sniper ships it's kind of a non issue.  I really want to figure out a lower/easier entry point for Logi because that's a major turn off to any new players considering getting into logi.  Why skill into Logi when it takes 2-3 skill injectors to get into a DPS ship, and 10 just to hit the minimum reqs for a Logi?

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