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Mark Neismith

Scout Incursions

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Hey guys,
Me and a bunch of friends of mine resubed recently. We tend to spend our time getting familiar with EVE again, while doing some exploration, missions and stuff like that :)
So a day ago - one of us suggested we try an inursion ... problem is -  we are too few - 4-5 ppl  online in the evenings. According to online resources - our best shot is so called Scout Incursion.
And here we were - 3 of us made a quick kitchen-sink-like fleet of a curse, clymore and a stabber ...
/no need to laugh - we never stopped doing it the whole time :) /
Tank-wise we were fine ... I think ... none of us died and we even managed to clear the first wave .. and than things become embarrassing.
In the second wave - there were 3 of Mara-thingie-ships + a jamming guy and some other stuff - somehow we did killed one Mara and - that was it. 5-10 mins later we were unable to put second Mara below 30% shield - so we called her a cheater and left :)

And here I am - asking for some guidance, because frankly - all the online sources are stating that Scout incursions are not worth it the time/effort vs reward and nothing more. Nevertheless I'd love to finish one just because ;)

Please - do tell - what would be a doable setup for 3-5 pilots to do such an incursion, what targets we should expect to meet there  and what would be the priority of taking down said targets.

Thank you in advance

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So, about scout incursions. They are the most horrible sites ever, there is massive amounts of reps (Maras) + jams, the only really good thing about them is that there are actually no scrams/points so you are free leave if the site gets to annoying.

So with your amount of people (4-5) sadly Scout sites are the only ones you can really do.

(with 6 and an additonal Shield/Skrimish or Armor/Skrimish and 2 T2 logi of the appropriate type and like 60% omni resists BSs and lots of webs you could try VGs, but that the bare minimum and I don't recommend it)

About how Scouts work:

Just kill all the stuff, make sure to focus on Maras, if you have 3-4 good skilled BS dudes you should be able to break them.

Maybe just try 3 Battleships with webs + 1 Scimitar and fit some Medium Logi drones on the battleships in case the Scimi gets aggro

With the fleet composition you had there you will probably have big problems to kill of the maras if they rep each other (each of they should have 700 hp/s effective rep on each other)

(700 hp/5s rep and Maras have 80% omni resists on shield)

 

Get Rid of Niarjas/Arnons/Orkashus early (they jam).

I have done them for fun with some like 3 guys, but we warped like 8 marauders on grid and went bastion, so we didn't need to care about jams at all and the sites still sucked hard.

 

Btw if you get tired trying, maybe look for some Incursion communities that have bigger fleets up, WTM it self has HQ fleets running all day everyday normally. (40man fleets) Ingame Channel is "Warp To Me Incursions"

If you looking to be in smaller cycles for now, look out for a Vanguard Community (10-12 man fleets)

There is a channel ingame that lists a lot of active communities called "Incursion Public"

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Tbh I advise people not to do Scouts 

Run VG's with a few people short will bring you more isk per hour and Fun. 

 

Scout have a lot of target jamming ships in and unless you are in a counter to it your going to be frustrated (maruaders are the counter) 

 

 

 

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Thank you very much for the answers!

Dont know about the others - but TBH I dont feel prepared enough to participate in larger groups - dont want to spoil the other people fun.

We will give it another try this evening. I'll tell my friends to dust-off their BS's. As for me - I am curious to test this beauty :

[Oracle, Mad Imp]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

 

cap stable, 197 tank and 700 dps ... going to have a sweet talk with dem Mara-medics ....

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3 hours ago, Mark Neismith said:

Dont know about the others - but TBH I dont feel prepared enough to participate in larger groups - dont want to spoil the other people fun.

Read our rookie guide and you are ready to go. (There is a fitting website with ships/fits we allow in here

(FC will go over it with you, to check you understood it and allow you to ask more question, when you tell him in fleet that you are a new guy)

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We are very new to incursion, and new to/returning after a long hiatus pilots- we go through our 'Rookie Guide' with you, and brush you up on what happens, and how we run our fleets.

We get onto TeamSpeak3, and its fun when you've got friends to fly with. Try us out, its great isk and our comms are social and fun. <3

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On 8/25/2016 at 3:40 AM, Imogen Demarco said:

We are very new to incursion, and new to/returning after a long hiatus pilots- we go through our 'Rookie Guide' with you, and brush you up on what happens, and how we run our fleets.

We get onto TeamSpeak3, and its fun when you've got friends to fly with. Try us out, its great isk and our comms are social and fun. <3

she means we cater to very new pilots, so be afraid not if you are new to running them, we will get you up to speed no problem.

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o7,

We made it!

Tho Oracle was not a good idea ... had to switch to a Scimi(glory to Logi5 skill!). So with 3BS - Mach & 2Maels with a scimi and AF as a webber we did it for like 20+ min ... 

Guess I will give it a try in the nearest future in a larger group :)
Once again - thank you for your responses!

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