Xoceac 103 Posted April 17, 2021 With max drone skills: 2 Augmented Ogres: 139,4 DPS5 Augmented Hammerheads: 174,2 DPS Both the Kronos and the Vargur only have 50 Mbit for drones and with Augmented Hammerheads, you do about 35 more DPS, which is quite significant if the whole fleet does it. Unsure if this was discussed already when making fits or guides, but there you go. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Imelda Virpio 179 Posted April 17, 2021 Hammerheads get destroyed a *lot* more than Ogres do, no idea why. I used to put Hammers in my Claymore, and I usually didn't get all five back from a TCRC bash. I don't think anybody is going to kick you off the waitlist for bringing them, but it's not profitable 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Sarevok 51 Posted April 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Imelda Virpio said: Hammerheads get destroyed a *lot* more than Ogres do, no idea why. I used to put Hammers in my Claymore, and I usually didn't get all five back from a TCRC bash. I don't think anybody is going to kick you off the waitlist for bringing them, but it's not profitable Same. Back when on-grid boosters got pay-outs, I started out with Hammerheads in my claymore too. I'd lose about 1 per TCRC... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malcolm Galora 374 Posted April 17, 2021 I kind of wanted to make a proposal but in the other way. No one likes the little guys anymore. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bear Ursa 27 Posted April 17, 2021 Kronos is easy, 5 hammerheads for NRF and TPPH, 2 ogres for TCRC. Vargur drone bay is a little more difficult to figure out an optimal solution for. Maybe 2 ogres, 1 hammerhead, 3 hobgoblins? Drop both ogres for a TCRC, but otherwise a mishmash for NRF and TPPH? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tani Makia 169 Posted April 17, 2021 Yeah, Hammerheads get munched on. Also, Xo, you know that this isn't how proposals work... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Sarevok 51 Posted April 17, 2021 He's a line member, he can propose where he wants. Right here has a better chance of being taken seriously than throwing it out in TS3 or WTM chat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blobert 113 Posted April 17, 2021 The reason heavy drones were chosen over mediums was because of surviability. Medium drones can die in TCRCs, and drone dps is so lame and insignificant given how poorly drones apply relative to the main guns dps, that we chose to take the dps penalty for more surviability. Adittionally, the rest of our non marauder optimal fits use heavy drones, and so cross training would be less of an issue. Although marauders are such a high skilled ship anyway that high sp pilots probably also have medium drone operation 5 as well, so this is kinda not as big of an issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casmas 14 Posted April 18, 2021 What about carrying some lights? As the waves go quicker and we normally have 2 DDD why not have some light drones to help kill the frigates in NRF/TPPH and on TCRC have heavies/Gecko? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niki lasvegas 537 Posted April 18, 2021 Light drones dont kill frigates. Guns do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xoceac 103 Posted April 19, 2021 On 17-4-2021 at 9:59 PM, Lord Sarevok said: He's a line member, he can propose where he wants. Right here has a better chance of being taken seriously than throwing it out in TS3 or WTM chat. This basically. It's better to put it somewhere on the forum, you get a lot more response and some permanent response, not something that gets said over voice or on discord. Thanks for the reponses. I guess I will carry them myself for the DPS increase, as they are still accepted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites