AnabukiTomoko 0 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Ok so for the past 2 years FCs have been fine with me using faction cruise. but now i'm getting a snippy FC who refusing unless i go t2.... so want to get this here. T2 vs Faction. Faction got higher rof base. as a result, currently (i'm at T3 Cruise specialization), Faction have more dps. no difference to application, alpha, etc. T4 and T5 cruise spec would add 4% more rof. so that might bring T2 on par to slightly above. i'm not sure as i'm still not sure if Spec skills affect faction missiles (they've always behaved differently from the other faction weapons, and no one has provided so far a screenshot of the t2 doing more dps than faction so far). proof of t3 currently so can i get a definite yes or no. can i use the faction launchers seeing as they give me more dps for no downside to performance. they've been accepted for 2 years. and only now am i getting a FC saying no(one i'm not familiar with. so might be new) also Ty Coe. NO. i am not flying a Vindi. Edited December 10, 2019 by AnabukiTomoko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnabukiTomoko 0 Posted December 10, 2019 Also. Torpedo is at spec 4. but the faction is still doing more dps. Alpha is the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niki lasvegas 537 Posted December 10, 2019 Current rules do not allow it sadly, they restrict launcher to T2 on snake or barghest. However in the current form of the game with the same t2 ammo Caldari and Dread Gurrista launchers are doing more DPS even if you level spec up to 5. So in a niki fleet they are going to be allowed with that combination. Rules should change about it cuz they became outdated after the t2 ammo changes. Please forgive the FC's when they are trying to play by the rules, even if the rules are wrong. And remember guys, the FC is always right. Even if they are wrong. o7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnabukiTomoko 0 Posted December 10, 2019 1 minute ago, niki lasvegas said: Current rules do not allow it sadly, they restrict launcher to T2 on snake or barghest. However in the current form of the game with the same t2 ammo Caldari and Dread Gurrista launchers are doing more DPS even if you level spec up to 5. So in a niki fleet they are going to be allowed with that combination. Rules should change about it cuz they became outdated after the t2 ammo changes. Please forgive the FC's when they are trying to play by the rules, even if the rules are wrong. And remember guys, the FC is always right. Even if they are wrong. o7 thanks. its less of the FC telling me no. and more of them ignoring me in waitlist and skipping to others, only for me ot notice 3 minutes later and having to ask what was going on. and then the FC telling me that i was suboptimal cause faction worse. which i couldnt understand (was frustrated enough that i almost replaced all the t2 blasters on my ships with tech 4 just to spite.....) and him blaming my skills as the reason i "thought faction was better" anyway. ty Niki. =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malcolm Galora 373 Posted December 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, AnabukiTomoko said: thanks. its less of the FC telling me no. and more of them ignoring me in waitlist and skipping to others, only for me ot notice 3 minutes later and having to ask what was going on. We had a new training FC doing the fleet and trainees have to follow the rules as best they can. He didn't mean to hold you up, he just had a lot going on at the moment. 33 minutes ago, AnabukiTomoko said: and then the FC telling me that i was suboptimal cause faction worse. which i couldnt understand (was frustrated enough that i almost replaced all the t2 blasters on my ships with tech 4 just to spite.....) and him blaming my skills as the reason i "thought faction was better" Missle and drone boats will always be less optimal than turret battleships. The rattlesnake is kind of a double whammy. Their delayed damage kind of puts a hamper on their effective dps. Not to say they are bad, just not as good as one of our optimal hulls, but imo if you don't enjoy the ship you are flying you are not going to fly it well regardless with what it is. I myself flied a Barghest for a long while before changing over to a Vindicator. Not every FC is going to exercise discretion like Niki does, some like our Trainees are unable to do so. I would advise just bringing a set of T2s in case you are told otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites