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Umm noticed we have empty waitlist more and more often Most new pilots join incursions to earn isk Simple math makes it clear under current upgrade policy, they need to reinvest into incursion running almost 100% of their payouts That means they would start to earn isk sometimes months after start And if they don't, they not get just skipped. Many times they stay in xup not approved If I was here only for isk, after I did math I would not have stayed, just telling.