Imelda Virpio

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  1. Intro Once again, I seem to have unusual ideas of what constitutes "fun." In this case, it's the notion of "optimizing fleet performance." The phrase keeps coming up... "too many Hyperions." But this is EVE, and the way to win fights in EVE is to bring more people. Too many Hyperions is a strength, and I'd like to see if we can use that strength. Of course, at the end of a site what we want is forty on grid, but up until the last few seconds? The more firepower, the merrier. My initial idea about how to do this is to divide the fleet into a command group, and then multiple wings of battleships + logi. Everybody piles into a site, we kill stuff as normal, and then about twenty seconds before the end all of the "extra" wings warp off, leaving forty to get maximum payout. We keep payouts fair by staggering which wings leave early between sites; if Able and Baker go this time, Charlie and Delta go next time, or whatever. This should have several advantages over our current fleet structure; it'll be safer because we'll have a billion logi on grid right up until the end, there won't be any huge waits to get into fleet, and contesting us becomes very interesting. I'm going to try and run this on Tuesday January 5, immediately post-downtime. Fleet Organization ON GRID wing, voice FC commanding (this is the command group) -Logi squad, with 3-4 Basi and one 3-link Scimi. Scimi links to DDD. I -DPS squad, with VVV, DDD, HHH -Sniper squad with AAA ABLE, BAKER, CHARLIE, etc. wings, with a battleship in wing command. -Logi squad, two logi. Two Basi, two Scimi, or one Scimi + one Loki. Scimi should link to wing members. -DPS squad with 6-7 battleships OFF GRID wing -Booster squad with various boosters -one or several scout squads With a ten-man command group and three battleship wings, we get 9-10 logi and forty people getting payout; it's our current fleet, with a funny-looking structure. With fifty people, we have four battleship wings, one warping out at the end of sites. With sixty... you see how it goes, but also, can I get a second booster and y'all early leavers go claim the next site? MAYBE. We'll probably try it. So what do I DO in this fleet? Most of the time, same as normal. Drop your drones, shoot the things, broadcast on time, all that good stuff. There is one important difference; you are going to have to KNOW YOUR WING. Somebody will probably tell you after you get in, but also, check the top of your fleet window occasionally: A minute or two before end of site, FC will announce which wings are leaving. About thirty seconds before, they'll drop an align broadcast. Get your drones and align! Ten seconds before the site ends, your wing commander will WING WARP you; take the wing warp. These times are approximate, I've never done this, I have no idea what I'm doing. What about PAYOUTS? If we're running 50% too many people (so only 2/3 of you get payout), we should also be running sites 50% faster (so payouts come 3/2 as fast). I think we'll even out. Ammo costs even out too; you get fewer payouts, but also have to fire fewer rounds/site. You *do* have more chances to lose drones, pay attention, don't lose your drones. All in all, Individual line pilots should be making the same amount of isk/hour as normal, just without having to lay around in Polstodur for several hours first. So, that's the idea. There's a lot of stuff I don't know yet. What do we do with people who x-ed up with multiple ships? What if there's four people left over from building wings, how do we fit those guys in? Probably about six other things will come up. This is all highly experimental; I'm confident that I won't get everyone killed, but beyond that, *shrug*. If you've got any ideas, please say so. We'll see how it goes.
  2. A fun fleet, of sorts - Come One, Come All

    I've had a couple days to digest this, and read the various mails, and I've come to the conclusion that no, this *really* doesn't work. The most important reason is that there's a game mechanic that means this doesn't actually defend against contests. Second is that the fleet *itself* ran more slowly with more people in it. It feels like the general disruption around cap chains and drone bunnies would be a third reason, but that part we could practice out of. A thing I didn't know at the start of the day, but did by the end, is that if you've got a fleet and some of them warp off before the end of the site, the damage those warped-off people did does not count for contest results! Apparently this is a Known Thing among old TVP guys, but I never flew with TVP. If we start with too many people on grid and get contested, we have to leave them on grid for the whole site. There's an interesting bit of game theory there-- sure, contest us and we'll lose but also, you won't win-- but it's not actually useful. There were a lot of other things going on that made the fleet relatively slow. Most of those I think we could work out with time and practice. But this mechanic actually makes contests *worse* for us, and I just don't see a way to get around that. This was worth trying, but... nah.
  3. A fun fleet, of sorts - Come One, Come All

    I gleefully look forward to considerable mess and at least one total payout welp. I mean, we'll try not to, but also, I'm bad at things. Per-wing cap chain! This is why I want 3 basilisks in the command group, so we'll have combat caps to run sites. Per-wing drone bunnies as well. This is going to need wing-chats, isn't it?... I understand this, but I can't not let people in because community-building. One thing I can say is that if we have THAT many logi, other opportunities open up. Don't worry, you'll have reasons to stay awake. Can a wing of pancakes eat a Vylade at 80km? I got Vylades I need killed.
  4. A fun fleet, of sorts - Come One, Come All

    You're likely right about 20s, a truly crap nightmare takes 17 seconds to align with its prop mod on. Also might need wing commanders to watchlist their wing members and tell me if anybody doesn't get off grid.. But then, just TIMING site ends that accurately is its own problem.. You're in an NRF, how many half-dead osti's and yulai's even is twenty seconds worth? If this works, I expect shuffling wings and keeping track of who got payout to be a nearly full time job by itself, and I won't be surprised if I get two sites in and have to hand voice to somebody else .
  5. I would be interested in a scouting channel

    A semi-public channel would work tolerably well. Wouldn't want the entire fleet in it because people need to pay attention to their own grid and spamming the channel with despawn notifications makes it useless, but two or three line pilots plus whatever commanders were around would be fine. If I can remember :), I'll set one up next time I have fleet and see how it goes.
  6. The best Christmas movie ever

    Bruce Willis says "Ho ho ho, now I have a machine gun!" How can you get more Christmassy than that? Also, "It's a Wonderful Life" is.. Kind of like "Back to the Future 2" only with sideways instead of forward, and they didn't have DeLoreans to make fun of in 1946. If they'd gotten a Sherman up to 88mph, it would have some redeeming virtue.
  7. Memorial Fleet - NOT A WTM FLEET

    Here we are in Rancer, completely obscuring one of the gates with fireworks and cynos.
  8. The traditional day-two upgrade

    Traditionally the first upgrade a DPS pilot gets is a mid-grade microwarp drive. A better MWD gives you about 25%-40% more cap life, and most of the "pretty good" units cost less than 150m... you can afford these after only a couple of hours in fleet. A Hyperion or Rokh using the Compact or QuadLiF MWD's cannot keep up with the fleet, and even a Vindicator has major troubles burning out to targets as they should. Here's a table showing the cap life of various MWD types in a Vindi. I’ve sorted it by “both shooting AND running”, because that’s what you need to do in fleet. See that big difference in cap life between the Quad LiF and the Gist C-type? Get on the good side of that gap. Head over to Amarr, go down this list, pick up the biggest thing that fits your budget. If you're still doing these in a month or two you can come back, resell the one you got today, and pick up a Core X-type.
  9. Hello

    Biggest difference between PvP and PvE logi is that we bring *enough* logi to tank things. Instead of slamming on all reps to slow down somebody's death, you put on about two and hold the rest in reserve for when aggro switches, which happens every 45-60 seconds. Also, you don't have to worry about getting stuck in somebody's damn bubble
  10. Newbro Hello o/

    oh my... that R'n'K video... especially the bit about the TPPH... https://youtu.be/uGIWirJDZgY?t=424 Seriously, watch that thirty seconds if you haven't seen it already.
  11. Blobert's TPPH Basi Experiment

    There's a business-management thing, and since this one works there are thousands of examples. You've got a workplace, and workers, and you want more work out of them. So you try changing a thing, maybe you turn up the lights so people can see better. Hurray, production rises, the lights weren't bright enough! But after a few months everything goes back to where it was. Well, maybe the lights are too bright and they're hurting everybody's eyes; you turn them down a bit. Production rises, hurrah! And.. this works on *anything*. Practically any change you make to the way people work will increase productivity, for a few months. This is one more example. It's not better in an abstract sense... in the nowadays WTM fleet with four CC's, you completely don't need it... but it's survivable, and if it wakes up the logi some, cool.
  12. Logi Agro

    Hi, I just went through the last six months worth of logi losses. Three-quarters of them happen in the first minute of a TCRC. Half of the remainder are people who aren't aligned correctly EXITING a TCRC. Most of what's left are mass DC's, or Scimi's getting blown up in a four-Deltole wave in an OCF, or people jumping into the wrong site. The ONLY normal hazard in your lives is that first TCRC minute. And of course we just changed the way we do that minute, so maybe it's fixed! We'll know in October or so. In the meantime, I have a fun fact that may help: the dual A-type Claymore needs only thirteen reps to stand up to the entire room. This means, DO NOT put more than two reps on it unless it hits armor. Half of you should be using ONE rep. And the thing has only 10.9K of raw shield; sixteen shield reps brings that Claymore from 0 to full shields. If everybody has two reps on it, it goes from 0-100% shield, every 6.62 seconds. Don't stint on cap if it needs it, but do not over-rep the Claymore. Outside of that, don't be a complete fool and you'll be fine. Broadcast when you get aggro, run your active hardeners, keep your orbit and prop mod up, and it's all good. Do the job, and when you blow up in that TCRC minute you'll get logi SRP and probably a loaner hull and be back on grid by end of site.
  13. There are eight sites that WarpToMe runs, in between HQ's, assaults, and vanguards... and one that we don't. The "Nation Consolidation Network" remains a mystery to me and to nearly everyone else here. Let's go look at it. The NCN, you land on it and it's TWO gates; the right side allows normal incursion fleets through, the left side doesn't let battleships in. We need something a little different. I've brought a pile of Taloses to dockup, and will be handing them out to blaster-boat pilots; with proper support they should be able to handle the left side. Some are set up with T2 guns, some with meta-4. Here's the T2 fit: [Talos, Talos] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Large Shield Extender II Multispectrum Shield Hardener II Tracking Computer II Stasis Webifier II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Medium EM Shield Reinforcer I Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Acolyte II x5 Void L x1337 Null L x1337 Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L x640 Optimal Range Script x2 If you feel like bringing your own battlecruiser, or a T3 cruiser, or something like Malcom's Huggin... hey, it's all good.
  14. Fine, but you get to meatshield it into the final room
  15. I peeked into the first room on the left, and the exit was right up against the entrance. If the second is similar, we'll be fine. Even if it's not, you can clear the gate for right-side fleet without moving too much. Or maybe mobile depots and 50mn MWD's would be a good idea.
  16. Oh, if we get out alive, I'll probably try it again at 7-25 at 0100, give the USTZ guys a chance to see it too
  17. Carlos failed to mention the other reason to avoid the Rokh: it's not fast enough to keep up. Rokhs spend a *lot* of time 50km behind everybody else wailing for capacitor, because even with prop mod on they're slower than the logi. Train the extra three days and get a Hyperion.
  18. Scimitar Upgrades

    The reason this happens is that Deltoles have TARGET PAINTERS. So, if a Scimitar gets the initial switch in TCRC, it gets webbed by Schmaeels and Renyns and painted by five Deltoles, and then either the Ostingeles or Yulais pile on and *apply* damage. Its speed and sig tank are both *totally* cancelled, and even with a thousand reps on it goes 100% shield, 95% hull, 100% shield, gone. It happens the same way to Scimi's with two T2 invulns and DCU -- maybe the second step has 5% armor-- so the DCU doesn't fix it. You get a similar thing in the Overwhelmed Civilian Facility assault site, because it sometimes coughs up a wave with four Deltoles. Command corps has been having this discussion for at least five years. The suggestion that keeps coming up is to add a large shield extender for buffer, but Scimi has major powergrid problems already and the LSE also causes the sig radius to go up so it messes with the sig tank! Really, there's no perfect solution, and ... we keep logs. It turns out Scimitars don't actually die that much. They're random-number tanked, but the dice rolls are in our favor.
  19. Scimitar Upgrades

    Faction sigamp is not an improvement over T2 on the Scimitar. The lock increase is the same, and the change in scan res does not push any lock times past a one-second boundary for a properly skilled pilot.
  20. Scouting Guide (Unofficial)

    I figured... somebody WOULD have tried holding the HQ system hostage by now... but it's nice to have that confirmed.
  21. Scouting Guide (Unofficial)

    I suggest a wording change here: "A new site spawns 7 minutes after its predecessor is finished." "Every seven minutes" would mean that once a new site spawns, no other site will spawn for seven minutes, which, I saw three NRFs come up within the same minute yesterday. Also, do we know how this timer interacts with site ending, versus site despawning? If somebody kills a TCRC, does the new site happen seven minutes after payout, or seven minutes after everyone gets off grid and the Sansha go backstage? And what happens if I bring in a cloaky to just sit there and STOP the Sansha from despawning? Inquiring minds want to know.
  22. Interested in Seeing What Others Play

    Stellaris ofc, and I've been playing a lot of "Noita" the past few months. Fun little indie roguelike, sort of a metroidvania kind of? Unfortunately, eating your kills doesn't do anything for you
  23. Serving cap broadcast, a better method?

    It's really strange to me that this thread has gone on for what, a week? and nobody's mentioned that getting battleships to 75% cap isn't actually a reasonable goal, it's the *limit*. Fill somebody up to 75% and their cap regen decreases so much that they can drain just from running their invulns. (The crap Hyperion fit+pilot I keep in pyfa is stable at 62% with just their tank on.) The fleet does not need us over-capping people like this. What the fleet does need is to keep all the battleships energized enough to fight. About 40% is good; it's enough to pulse your prop mod and fire a wad of antimatter without triggering an alarm. This is why three-cycles-and-move-on works; even if the guy who broadcast is a fool and leaves ALL the lights on, your three cycles get him up to about that 40%; he's functioning, and his own cap regen is doing at least some of its job. Anything beyond that point is extra; if you spend another ten seconds dumping cap in, it'll only delay the next broadcast from that ship by five, or thereabouts. Any plan that starts with "we can get people to 75% by..." is a bad plan.
  24. Rookie guide / Fits suggestion

    My 2009 main still doesn't have Thermodynamics so it's not a new thing. Or maybe it's a new/not new/ancient thing And, no, you don't really need light drones skill on a Mael... or on any of our battleships really. Just bring Ogres, nobody will yell at you for having a bay full of Ogres.
  25. Which frigate you will fit after escape bay patch?

    Kind of a shame they took out jamming battleship guns onto a frigate; otherwise this could be the way to finally get one of those into space.