Imelda Virpio

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  1. Optimal Scimi 5 Ideas

    TBH the fourth link isn't useful EITHER, the way we train Scimi pilots nowadays. If we still had 'em drop extras onto HHH/VVV, a range links adds 100-200ish dps on those guys, but a fourth on DDD has no real effect. This is why I occasionally mention the DDA+Ogre Scimi; it is the most worthwhile thing to do with that fourth low.
  2. Newb questions about incursions

    We are *very* unlikely to run more than one fleet, these days, not enough people x-ing up for it. Which is actually a good thing, because we had four-hour wait times for a while!
  3. In Tidacha, our current dockup. There won't be a new spawn up yet, Tidacha is pretty central for incursions so it's a good place to wait between spawns anyway. This is essentially the same advanced logi school I did a couple of weeks ago, a bit more developed. A lot of this turns out to be about *delay*; we've got enough reps on field, why does it take as long as it does to get them on people? How do we get that to happen faster? Also, I've got things set up for the exercises I couldn't do last time; they should be at least a little bit of fun. You'll see what your reps actually *do*. Topics I've got written down are threads: delay, teamwork Steady state Verbal Commands and Timing Landing, and the landing checklist The Steak Thing Switches, and the switch checklist The sawtooth function, or, why we decycle That fourth link Cap broadcasts Outunis, and neuts in general "Elite" fits Overheating Finding the Sandbag Exercises - Orbit distances - Burning your reps - What does a rep look like?, battleship edition - What does a rep look like?, fun edition You can show up without a logi ship; if you can find an afterburner cruiser with at least one large rep that would be a good step, but it's mostly just talkin'.
  4. The usual "Logi School" for WTM is basically a longer version of the newbro speech logi get, with some obsolete detail about the cap chain for basilisks. I've said what I have to say about that in (1). I'd been flying the basilisk for three or four years when I wrote that, which may tell you something about me and logistics ships. This is going to be something different. I've talked about most of this stuff in fleet at one time or another, but never gathered it up into one place before. The main topics in my notes are threads: time, cap, teamwork, the opposite of teamwork Steady state Verbal Commands and Timing The Steak Thing Switches The sawtooth function, or, why we decycle That fourth link Cap broadcasts Outunis, and neuts in general "Elite" fits Overheating Finding the Sandbag Exercises - Orbit distances - Burning your reps - What does a rep look like?, battleship edition - What does a rep look like?, fun edition This will start at 1630 EVE time on October 31, just about twelve hours after the spawn probably dies. It'll take about seventy minutes including the exercises. In the unlikely event that a spawn shows up during the thing, we can do the in-ship bits and then I'll keep babbling while everybody packs up and moves. If you don't have a logistics ship, you can do the in-ship stuff with any cruiser fitted with a couple of shield reps and an afterburner; Scythe or Osprey are pretty obvious candidates, and Dodixie's right over there. 1)
  5. Marauder Initiative

    I built Vargurs for a year or two. If what you need is characters with production skills, I think the main ones aren't doing much these days-- been busy these past few years, and then the recent changes made all the money go to whoever owns the reactor for the carbon fiber things so I stopped doing freighters. You could in-game mail me or something and we could talk about details.
  6. Elite Basi Fits

    That is a no. Since we do not check implants, we cannot allow line pilots to fly any fit that would require implants.
  7. The recent change to Basilisk fits means that you all have two combat caps. This raises an issue that hasn't come up for line pilots much before: if you have more than one combat cap, SPLIT THEM between different targets. This is especially critical when there are multiple broadcasts up. Two battleships at 30% cap, both getting cap, will both stay functional. If two are at 30% and only one gets capped, that one falls behind. Double-capping Ajax doesn't do a thing for Benvenuto. Even if you're just randomly capping people, the way cap regeneration works as a game mechanic makes putting multiple caps on the same target inefficient. Every bit of cap you add to somebody's pile past 29.6% reduces their cap regeneration.. Capping someone who is already above 70% or so just means that you're just replacing their own native regen, which doesn't delay their next broadcast at all. So, the cap hit that takes a guy from 30 to 35% adds more TIME for him, than the one taking him from 35 to 40. It's easy to see this when flying a battleship yourself; just warping to site takes you down to 75%, just doing the first burn takes you down to 50%, but then you just.. stay there, almost? The second way that putting multiple caps on a target causes inefficiency is rapid target switching. Switching any module from one target to another takes between three and five seconds. There's a whole process: you hit the button to turn the module off, wait for its cycle to end, make sure you've got the right new target selected, hit the button again, and wait for the server to acknowledge the change. If you put both caps on the same person, you're dumping 30% cap into them in about fifteen seconds and need to switch after three cycles, and you lose between 20-30% of your total output while you push the buttons. If you split your caps, you can switch every thirty seconds, lock two targets at the same time, and lose only 10%. Also, you'll have more free time to do stuff like checking to make sure people are in the right positions. All of this goes out the window if there's an Outuni on field because its target gets all caps, but even there you need to STAGGER your caps. You're not going to be able to keep people from getting zeroed out by the Outunis by dropping more cap on them when they're still full, but if you stagger them you reduce the amount of time they have hardeners off from a max of about seven seconds to about five. WAIT two seconds, two full seconds, before firing that second cap transmitter. tl;dr: For maximum effectiveness treat your two cap transmitters as two separate things, not as one double-sized xmit.
  8. Marauder Initiative

    If you want to find a "good, cheap and reliable logistic group," just use public courier contracts. You can get things shipped for about 1m isk/billion in value/jump; this comes out to 4.7% of cost to Amarr, 2.7% to Rens, 1.6% to Dodixie. I've been doing it for years, getting isotopes to Jita and modules out to the hinterlands. For more particulars, check out the "Haulers Channel" chat channel in-game.
  9. Proposal: Kronos and Vargur Drones

    Hammerheads get destroyed a *lot* more than Ogres do, no idea why. I used to put Hammers in my Claymore, and I usually didn't get all five back from a TCRC bash. I don't think anybody is going to kick you off the waitlist for bringing them, but it's not profitable
  10. Marauder Stuff From the Field

    A thread to drop stuff that you've figured out about marauders. The guides aren't bad, but they can't know everything; new stuff keeps turning up, and we should share the knowledge a bit.
  11. Marauder Stuff From the Field

    Me in particular, I've been Kronos'ing, and a few items: 1) daaaang, melting a Yulai by yourself in 15 seconds is fun. Okay, that's not useful exactly, but still... y'all want to train for these. A few general things: "Sniper" or "DPS" no longer exist. All of the marauders have the range to effectively hit anything on the field. If you need to spend a wave or two murdering stuff at 80km, fine, do that. In related news, we have a billion locks. Feel free to lock stuff up that MIGHT be interesting. Maybe you won't need to kill that Vylade, but you can look. A Yulai is twenty seconds without heat, a Deltole about 45, an Ostingele 70, an Intaki close to 90. You can do better with big abyssals or big Pyrolancea. Nikifleet runs fast enough that DB5 is profitable, just sayin'. When a new wave spawns, it's faster to look at the frigates and make sure you aren't getting aggro before hitting bastion, than it is to wait until somebody ELSE broadcasts. It's also safer, because the switch happens in *exactly* two bastion cycles... soonest in, soonest out. Nothing is sadder than losing five seconds of bastion time to an ammo switch. You can drift about 10km if you hit bastion while at full speed. Wheee! NRF stuff: Common "last man standing" targets in teach wave: first wave, Vylades. Second wave, Antems. Third, Antems again. You can anchor a few kilometers toward the *next* anchor point. 10 west of the first anchor, 10 north-northeast of the second. This saves you a bit of time getting to the next wave, you're still in optimal, and that bit of extra distance reduces traversal. TPPH stuff: You can clear the Ostingeles in the first two rooms fast enough that Vindicators have time to pay more attention to frigates. On the flip side, you suck at frigates because you have no webs. Go ahead, beg for frigate help early. I can see DDD being less of a thing once we get used to this, because the ten or so vindi's can all shoot frigates after the high-threat targets go down all through this site. TCRC stuff: If you're not being contested, It's practical to help clear Deltoles for a bastion cycle or so once they get close-ish, and bastion is safer once they're gone.
  12. Multi-Boxing - 3 Accounts

    Running these requires attention. Back when short fleets were more of a thing I could count on getting about half damage from a person's second battleship and the occasional shield broadcast from the wrong character. Nowadays, with everything dying faster and the nightmares moving around more, it would be worse. Better to save the empty spot in fleet for a real human.
  13. First impressions of bastion paladin

    Hallo, Parus! It was good to see you on grid yesterday We're talking about this in the commander forums now and.. yeah, you've been mentioned. Lotta "whoooa dang we need this" going on. It's going to take a while to fit these into fleet in a way that doesn't just come down to "everybody self-tank, stop using logi." Hopefully we can figure out a doctrine where the individual marauder only has to last long enough to end their bastion cycle and start getting reps off logi, maybe let us jam another damage mod or two on the things. We'll see how it goes.
  14. Intro Once again, I seem to have unusual ideas of what constitutes "fun." In this case, it's the notion of "optimizing fleet performance." The phrase keeps coming up... "too many Hyperions." But this is EVE, and the way to win fights in EVE is to bring more people. Too many Hyperions is a strength, and I'd like to see if we can use that strength. Of course, at the end of a site what we want is forty on grid, but up until the last few seconds? The more firepower, the merrier. My initial idea about how to do this is to divide the fleet into a command group, and then multiple wings of battleships + logi. Everybody piles into a site, we kill stuff as normal, and then about twenty seconds before the end all of the "extra" wings warp off, leaving forty to get maximum payout. We keep payouts fair by staggering which wings leave early between sites; if Able and Baker go this time, Charlie and Delta go next time, or whatever. This should have several advantages over our current fleet structure; it'll be safer because we'll have a billion logi on grid right up until the end, there won't be any huge waits to get into fleet, and contesting us becomes very interesting. I'm going to try and run this on Tuesday January 5, immediately post-downtime. Fleet Organization ON GRID wing, voice FC commanding (this is the command group) -Logi squad, with 3-4 Basi and one 3-link Scimi. Scimi links to DDD. I -DPS squad, with VVV, DDD, HHH -Sniper squad with AAA ABLE, BAKER, CHARLIE, etc. wings, with a battleship in wing command. -Logi squad, two logi. Two Basi, two Scimi, or one Scimi + one Loki. Scimi should link to wing members. -DPS squad with 6-7 battleships OFF GRID wing -Booster squad with various boosters -one or several scout squads With a ten-man command group and three battleship wings, we get 9-10 logi and forty people getting payout; it's our current fleet, with a funny-looking structure. With fifty people, we have four battleship wings, one warping out at the end of sites. With sixty... you see how it goes, but also, can I get a second booster and y'all early leavers go claim the next site? MAYBE. We'll probably try it. So what do I DO in this fleet? Most of the time, same as normal. Drop your drones, shoot the things, broadcast on time, all that good stuff. There is one important difference; you are going to have to KNOW YOUR WING. Somebody will probably tell you after you get in, but also, check the top of your fleet window occasionally: A minute or two before end of site, FC will announce which wings are leaving. About thirty seconds before, they'll drop an align broadcast. Get your drones and align! Ten seconds before the site ends, your wing commander will WING WARP you; take the wing warp. These times are approximate, I've never done this, I have no idea what I'm doing. What about PAYOUTS? If we're running 50% too many people (so only 2/3 of you get payout), we should also be running sites 50% faster (so payouts come 3/2 as fast). I think we'll even out. Ammo costs even out too; you get fewer payouts, but also have to fire fewer rounds/site. You *do* have more chances to lose drones, pay attention, don't lose your drones. All in all, Individual line pilots should be making the same amount of isk/hour as normal, just without having to lay around in Polstodur for several hours first. So, that's the idea. There's a lot of stuff I don't know yet. What do we do with people who x-ed up with multiple ships? What if there's four people left over from building wings, how do we fit those guys in? Probably about six other things will come up. This is all highly experimental; I'm confident that I won't get everyone killed, but beyond that, *shrug*. If you've got any ideas, please say so. We'll see how it goes.
  15. A fun fleet, of sorts - Come One, Come All

    I've had a couple days to digest this, and read the various mails, and I've come to the conclusion that no, this *really* doesn't work. The most important reason is that there's a game mechanic that means this doesn't actually defend against contests. Second is that the fleet *itself* ran more slowly with more people in it. It feels like the general disruption around cap chains and drone bunnies would be a third reason, but that part we could practice out of. A thing I didn't know at the start of the day, but did by the end, is that if you've got a fleet and some of them warp off before the end of the site, the damage those warped-off people did does not count for contest results! Apparently this is a Known Thing among old TVP guys, but I never flew with TVP. If we start with too many people on grid and get contested, we have to leave them on grid for the whole site. There's an interesting bit of game theory there-- sure, contest us and we'll lose but also, you won't win-- but it's not actually useful. There were a lot of other things going on that made the fleet relatively slow. Most of those I think we could work out with time and practice. But this mechanic actually makes contests *worse* for us, and I just don't see a way to get around that. This was worth trying, but... nah.
  16. A fun fleet, of sorts - Come One, Come All

    I gleefully look forward to considerable mess and at least one total payout welp. I mean, we'll try not to, but also, I'm bad at things. Per-wing cap chain! This is why I want 3 basilisks in the command group, so we'll have combat caps to run sites. Per-wing drone bunnies as well. This is going to need wing-chats, isn't it?... I understand this, but I can't not let people in because community-building. One thing I can say is that if we have THAT many logi, other opportunities open up. Don't worry, you'll have reasons to stay awake. Can a wing of pancakes eat a Vylade at 80km? I got Vylades I need killed.
  17. A fun fleet, of sorts - Come One, Come All

    You're likely right about 20s, a truly crap nightmare takes 17 seconds to align with its prop mod on. Also might need wing commanders to watchlist their wing members and tell me if anybody doesn't get off grid.. But then, just TIMING site ends that accurately is its own problem.. You're in an NRF, how many half-dead osti's and yulai's even is twenty seconds worth? If this works, I expect shuffling wings and keeping track of who got payout to be a nearly full time job by itself, and I won't be surprised if I get two sites in and have to hand voice to somebody else .
  18. I would be interested in a scouting channel

    A semi-public channel would work tolerably well. Wouldn't want the entire fleet in it because people need to pay attention to their own grid and spamming the channel with despawn notifications makes it useless, but two or three line pilots plus whatever commanders were around would be fine. If I can remember :), I'll set one up next time I have fleet and see how it goes.
  19. The best Christmas movie ever

    Bruce Willis says "Ho ho ho, now I have a machine gun!" How can you get more Christmassy than that? Also, "It's a Wonderful Life" is.. Kind of like "Back to the Future 2" only with sideways instead of forward, and they didn't have DeLoreans to make fun of in 1946. If they'd gotten a Sherman up to 88mph, it would have some redeeming virtue.
  20. Memorial Fleet - NOT A WTM FLEET

    Here we are in Rancer, completely obscuring one of the gates with fireworks and cynos.
  21. The traditional day-two upgrade

    Traditionally the first upgrade a DPS pilot gets is a mid-grade microwarp drive. A better MWD gives you about 25%-40% more cap life, and most of the "pretty good" units cost less than 150m... you can afford these after only a couple of hours in fleet. A Hyperion or Rokh using the Compact or QuadLiF MWD's cannot keep up with the fleet, and even a Vindicator has major troubles burning out to targets as they should. Here's a table showing the cap life of various MWD types in a Vindi. I’ve sorted it by “both shooting AND running”, because that’s what you need to do in fleet. See that big difference in cap life between the Quad LiF and the Gist C-type? Get on the good side of that gap. Head over to Amarr, go down this list, pick up the biggest thing that fits your budget. If you're still doing these in a month or two you can come back, resell the one you got today, and pick up a Core X-type.
  22. Hello

    Biggest difference between PvP and PvE logi is that we bring *enough* logi to tank things. Instead of slamming on all reps to slow down somebody's death, you put on about two and hold the rest in reserve for when aggro switches, which happens every 45-60 seconds. Also, you don't have to worry about getting stuck in somebody's damn bubble
  23. Newbro Hello o/

    oh my... that R'n'K video... especially the bit about the TPPH... Seriously, watch that thirty seconds if you haven't seen it already.
  24. Blobert's TPPH Basi Experiment

    There's a business-management thing, and since this one works there are thousands of examples. You've got a workplace, and workers, and you want more work out of them. So you try changing a thing, maybe you turn up the lights so people can see better. Hurray, production rises, the lights weren't bright enough! But after a few months everything goes back to where it was. Well, maybe the lights are too bright and they're hurting everybody's eyes; you turn them down a bit. Production rises, hurrah! And.. this works on *anything*. Practically any change you make to the way people work will increase productivity, for a few months. This is one more example. It's not better in an abstract sense... in the nowadays WTM fleet with four CC's, you completely don't need it... but it's survivable, and if it wakes up the logi some, cool.
  25. Logi Agro

    Hi, I just went through the last six months worth of logi losses. Three-quarters of them happen in the first minute of a TCRC. Half of the remainder are people who aren't aligned correctly EXITING a TCRC. Most of what's left are mass DC's, or Scimi's getting blown up in a four-Deltole wave in an OCF, or people jumping into the wrong site. The ONLY normal hazard in your lives is that first TCRC minute. And of course we just changed the way we do that minute, so maybe it's fixed! We'll know in October or so. In the meantime, I have a fun fact that may help: the dual A-type Claymore needs only thirteen reps to stand up to the entire room. This means, DO NOT put more than two reps on it unless it hits armor. Half of you should be using ONE rep. And the thing has only 10.9K of raw shield; sixteen shield reps brings that Claymore from 0 to full shields. If everybody has two reps on it, it goes from 0-100% shield, every 6.62 seconds. Don't stint on cap if it needs it, but do not over-rep the Claymore. Outside of that, don't be a complete fool and you'll be fine. Broadcast when you get aggro, run your active hardeners, keep your orbit and prop mod up, and it's all good. Do the job, and when you blow up in that TCRC minute you'll get logi SRP and probably a loaner hull and be back on grid by end of site.