niki lasvegas

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  1. FC can choose these kind of things in their own fleets. How many, and who. Me personally ? I will have my NMs to try to MTAC. All of them. Okay, maybe excluding fairly new bro NMs, but even them should just read up on the subject and at least try to process the job, see it in action. They should be competing with each other without real pressure, for just fun. But better get used to this competition, because there is going to be one with another fleet, and a lot of times a good MTAC is pretty much essential for a contest win. As far as MTAC dropping and tower repping mechanics go the previous commanders already explained so i wont bother. Just simply snatch it and drop it ASAP and look for the next one. Repeat until tower is dead. If you do that there is no such thing like "tower is repping cuz we dropped too soon". If the tower is repping between 2 drops thats simply because someone did not drop on time.
  2. Pause Feature Suggestion for Waitlist

    Missing an invite is not a big deal on the waitlist. It happens all the time with the crazy waiting times (everyone can thank CCP for the lack of content). You will be kept on it until next time the chance rises. Might be only a few more minutes, or maybe much more. FC will obviously fill the fleet really quickly, cuz they cant know when will ppl accept invites or be back active. 2 missed invites same still no worries. FC might remove you after 3rd missed invite tho'. Now being offline the moment you received an invite is actually a big deal. FC will just assume you lost interest and closed the game and will just remove you from WL. So keep the game open. If you disconnect dont wait for anything, log back in sooner the better.
  3. Best alpha batleship

    Maelstrom has cap problems too, in HQ sites you need to burn a lot and that ship is extremely slow. Without cap skills you are going to suffer. Machariel is kind of expensive just to simply buy it then reship after 30 hours. Not to mention this topic is more than 14 months old, so the guy asking is probably long gone ;3
  4. niki's Capsprey Guide for HQ sites

    Not a bad fit at all, altho' i personally do not prefer it. Making a fit unnecessarily cap stable without a good reason doesnt really make sense.You dont need MWD to stay active all the time. It is also bad for a few reasons to just run it endlessly. If you want tanky fit, use the tanky version. If you want to lessen the tank thats fine too, but dont just go half-way Use greedy fit for more utility.
  5. Hey Guys. This one has been a long time coming guide, with many requests. Finally it is time. What is a Capsprey? A Capsprey is a cheap Osprey focusing on helping out a WTM fleet and its great cap-hungriness, following them around and servicing capacitor on-grid, while not in fleet. Ideally this character is an alt of someone who is already in fleet and getting paid for site-completion. How to safely do this without blowing up? You have to play by a couple of really simple rules and you will most likely (99.99% chance) not going to get targeted at all, unless our CCP Overlords will decide otherwise (the 0.01% why you cant say something like "impossible or always/never" in EVE). Rules: 1. As always you have to listen to the FC. Nothing new here. 2. Unless you have an explicit permission from the FC you are not going into a TCRC. Only NRF and TPPH. To be fair TPPH is by far the most cap-hungry site anyway, and thats where you are needed the most. In TCRC there are a couple of frigs and cruisers who are not playing by the usual aggro rules, and sometimes its messy enough even without a Capsprey. Feel free to ask permission, but dont get grumpy if FC says no tho'. 3. In NRF and TPPH when fleet takes a gate you have to be a 100% sure that the initial aggro already happened (somebody is already getting shot), after that you have to take the gate really quickly, because you have to keep up with the fleet, and not be out of position when the next wave spawns! How to confirm aggro? Either check it with your in-fleet character, or if you dont have that wait 15 seconds after fleet took the gate, then catch up fast! 4. Anchoring: DO NOT ORBIT! You have to reach your anchor position before the next wave spawns, this is super important! When you are there then obviously you can turn off your prop-mod. I'll give you two options how to anchor yourself: a) In case you can move in 3D (Q+doubleclick) and have the capacity to choose a safe spot: anchor yourself! This is probably safer than relying on a booster that sometimes can be slightly out of position. -TPPH: last room 30 km left from the tower, 80 km from the beacon, your altitude (important) should be the top of the very highest spike of the tower. -NRF: 50 km right from the tower, 80 km from the beacon, your altitude (important) should be the top of the very highest spike of the tower. -TCRC: does not matter even if the FC lets you in, there are no waves after Outuni spawn, so you should be fine anywhere. b) In case you can not anchor yourself: You will anchor on the primary booster. You burn to it really close, keep-at-range 1000 meters. If the booster is not out of position you probably (99.99%) wont take new wave initial aggro. Okay, you survived. Nice. But how to effectively use a Capsprey, what is the job? It is rather simple because you should focus on your in-fleet character mostly anyway. You should service cap for the most cap-hungry boats in the fleet. Who are these guys? Blaster boats. Typically: all the Hyperions are cap hungry all the time. Vindicators who are burning around like madmen. Vindicators who are doing crazy DPS, pulling damage aggro. Hope they are not in fleet, but alas if they are: Rokhs. Honestly, all the blaster boats will be grateful for your deed. Some rare times if they notice you they might just tip some ISK as well for your service. I know i do. ;3 So you put 1 cap transfer on each of these guys (5 at a time), and you basically are good for at least 1 wave. I would recommend to maximize your focus on your in-fleet character. And only switch cap targets with the Capsrey if you still have spare time, which sometimes you probably wont have at all. Depends on the fleets nature, really. I would also recommend to just keep capping Hyperions (Rokhs...) all the time and never let them go. You can shuffle around the rest of your cap transfers on Vindicators if you want tho', cuz most typically they wont need them all the time, just a refuel every now and then. It is completely fine to just choose 5 ships and cap them for a whole site and to not pay attention to your Capsprey at all after you started capping and reached your anchor. What to do if you screwed up and failed to play by the rules or CCP decided you will be unlucky? AKA: if you are targeted by sansha. The tanky fit that i listed below most likely will hold and not blow up, if the in-fleet logi can catch you on time. If possible then you should voice it on comms, even target broadcast your own alt quickly. Overheat the tank, the prop-mod and try to burn away. Hopefully the commanders and logies are on the lookout on their own as well and will try to save you. Do not warp out with the tanky fit, please even if you are able to. It will just cause split aggro, which can easily result in losing some drones, and of course grumpy logi. Most likely you will survive, but even if you die, it is a cheap loss and a good lesson what not to do with the next Capsprey. If you are in the greedy fit then feel free to warp out, cuz you are not going to survive a full wave aggro. But that fit is only recommended for veteran pilots who are experienced multiboxers and confident enough that they wont screw up ever. Recommended tanky fit for everyone: Not recommended greedy fit for veterans who are experienced multiboxers and really confident: Why Small Cap Transfers? Small Cap Transfers will give enough cap for your targets, but they will not pull enough aggro to be targeted by the sansha. It is the perfect solution and these small Corpii A-Types are also really cost-effective. Alright thats enough to start. Not sure if i want to expand more on the why's and how's and make this another "book" of mine. I will update if there is something that i feel important enough. Off you go, and cap some mighty Vindicators!
  6. Back after long hiatus

    Welcome back! Hours on Waitlist is not really important, dont worry about that. As far as Trusted Logi badge you might need to re-earn that one. things have changed a lot. Sites are faster. In some fleets the pace is very different.
  7. "Can I bring my Vargur?"

    Not sure what was wrong with the Vindi, but WTM is not TDF. Maybe you should try flying the Vindi here too. Who knows. Its a bit cap-hungry, but WTM fleets are used to being cap-hungry. I personally would not pick on a linepilot if they are trying their best flying what they have currently. I hope other FCs are not doing that either. For example i would not mind seeing a Mach in my fleet as long as they are willing to MTAC, even bringing an MJD for that. Maybe not more than one tho' The most important thing is the will to upgrade. As long as they have that then sooner or later they will meet with all the requirements. I only have a problem with two kind of people: 1) already have a lot of in-fleet hours and they just keep bringing bad fits, not investing. 2) not trying their best on grid, being sandbags.
  8. "Can I bring my Vargur?"

    To be fair you can keep bringing the Mach until you have the required skills for the Vargur. The only downside is that FC can (doesnt have to, but can) skip the Mach after 30 in-fleet hours if they see some other snipers who are playing by the "Upgrade Policy". Some FCs will, some wont. If they keep poking you to switch to NM, just tell them what you wrote down here: you are in fact skilling into the Vargur but until then this is what you can fly that helps the fleet most. A meta4 NM is indeed way less useful than a t2 gun Mach. Just make sure that you are indeed skilling towards the Vargur. Some LSI (Large Skill Injector) and +4 / +5 attribute implants also can help reducing the time. The other option is what Eliz wrote down: get a Vindicator, and even with meta gun you are going to do (worst case scenario) 1000+ dps and you will have a really useful web that helps the fleet greatly if used correctly. I personally would not switch into a meta NM in your case.
  9. niki's take on the WTM Leshak

    UPDATE: BECAUSE OF RECENT CHANGES IN THE GAME THE LESHAK CURRENTLY IS NOT SO OPTIMAL FOR HIGHSEC INCURSONS. I WOULD RECOMMEND TO NOT START TO TRAIN INTO IT OR TO NOT BUY IT IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT YET! HOWEVER WE CANT KNOW WHAT CCP WILL CHANGE NEXT, AND MAYBE THE LESHAK WILL RISE AGAIN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. Hey guys! Just wanted to share my POV about the Leshak, and provide a basic guideline about how you should fly this beautiful snowflake in a WTM fleet. So here goes nothing! Disclaimer: a lot of time passed and a lot of things changed in EVE (nowadays i feel like every other week something huge is changing) since i wrote this. So while most of it is probably still useful it has become just a little bit outdated by now, for example FC might ask you to shoot something different... Currently i dont feel like updating it. Maybe it will change in the future. Who knows. GENERAL TIPS: With every guide the first general and golden rule should always be: "USE COMMON SENSE, PLEASE!" So there you have it. Its not hard. You just have to think a little bit Second golden rule is: "ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR FC!" Maybe there is something unusual thing going on and fleet needs to react and adjust. Please do so! For example i will probably do unusual things nowadays when im FC The Leshak is not a "DPS", neither a "SNIPER" ship. Its a snowflake. If you want to fly it, then please fly it properly. Basically you will need to anchor yourself all the time, not following AAA or VVV around. Most of the times you need to shoot out of tagging order, something different. I really do expect all my Leshaks to actually put effort into flying their ships as long as they are in my fleet. Getting The Precursor Battleship Level up to 5 is super important. Its an amazing bump to your efficiency. For real. I mean sure, weapon spec to 5 is nice too, but you can leave it temporarily at 4 in order to train Battleship Level 5. Its way more important! Always try to use the Occult ammo. You should use Mystic only when you enter a pocket and you are burning into position, or if you are finishing a wave and you are prepping for the next one but still removing the remnant of the wave. Veles gun is actually better than T2 gun even if you have weapon spec 4. And its not that expensive. T2 gun is however better at spec 5. WTM does allow Veles gun, but bear in mind you have to have at least weapon spec 1 and you have to be able to use T2 ammo in order to fly with WTM. This ship is all about its weapon spool-up. You should aim to shoot a single ship continuously as long as possible, preferably with Occult. Its basically a guessing game: you need to guess the ship that normally would die last on the grid. And shoot that ship. When it dies you just simply reset the game. Exceptions: - Spawn Trigger Ships: you need to exclude those from this game for obvious reasons. - Outuni Mesen: if there are 3 on the grid (or 2 and FC says so) at the same time then they are just too dangerous to completely ignore them in a shield fleet. Even if you are a Leshak. So they come before the game. Don't be scared to break the spool-up of the Mystic if you know you can shoot with Occult around 20 times or more after the switch on the same boat. Don't be afraid of burning as much as you want. This ship has mad cap stability. Use it! Keep at range 15 km on your main target is a really easy way to keep the spool going until they go poof. Especially if they are burning somewhere. If they are 20 or more km away, that's where you can start worrying about breaking the spool with Occult. I'd suggest to adjust your position if they are more than 20 km away. You should always shoot something. There is no excuse to ever stop shooting with this ship. You have everything in order to do so: You can switch ammo instantly, you can always burn whenever you are not in range cuz you have the cap for it and you have a ridiculously short cycle time. Jack of all trades. In my opinion utility high slots are less important for the Leshak in a WTM fleet. So if you are missing some fitting space (PG or more likely CPU) you can try to adjust your fitting by using up less on the high slots. Nevertheless if anyone feels like stuffing one or maybe two remote armors to utility highs feel free to do so! The ship indeed has a bonus for it. Just be careful about the tight CPU fitting limit. But more importantly as a Leshak you should never broadcast for cap if you are not neuted, so please dont cap yourself out with them! Overloading: in case of contest you can easily continuously overheat your single gun during almost (if not) the whole site! You can train relevant skills for better results of course, but just try it out! Experience your personal limit with it! Just don't burn out your gun pretty please. In "NRF" site (see below) depending on fleet comp and fleet numbers you always want to adjust your targets. I know. This is actually "hard". But after a site or two you will get a good feeling about your fleet. If snipers need help, you shoot sniper targets. If DPS needs help, you shoot DPS targets. Its not a big deal if you make a mistake with this, don't worry. As long as you are shooting, you are good! But properly adjusting yourself for fleet needs with a Leshak means shorter site time. I will write a few examples later on. With multiple Leshaks in fleet you guys can communicate with each other and try to not shoot the same target. Remember: the longer the spool the shorter the site time! Altho' be careful to not flood voice comms. Maybe its best to just use Fleet Chat. Example: "s4" means you are shooting (spooling) on tag 4. Of course this is getting harder with more Leshaks in fleet. I do understand that but again as long as you are shooting and try your best, you are good. Expect damage agro! If you are doing everything correctly with proper skill set and good fit then don't be surprised that damage agro lands on you. It means you are doing your job and being pretty good at it! So anticipate some agro switch on your ship, be on the lookout and please broadcast on time, like everyone should! Taking fleet roles with the Leshak is not the best idea. - You should never try to MTAC (lack of agility, gun range problem, but most importantly possible niarja jam which can ruin your and your fleets whole day). - You should probably not try to AAA (you dont have enough range to shoot properly). - You should not try to DDD or HHH (lack of webs). - You might be able to VVV in it, but its not really optimal to do so (lack of agility now even more so after nerf). - You already have a unique role in fleet. Its called "Leshak"! SITE BY SITE GUIDE: I'll try to give you examples here. Mostly just presuming you are the only Leshak in fleet. Sometimes you have to adjust your targets depending your fleet as i wrote above. I'm sorry this is not a sandbag ship, you actually have to use your brain, not just your eyes Hey now! Don't blame me! You chose to fly it. True Power Provisional Headquarters (TPPH) First pocket: Usually you start Mystic on Outuni and burn to Occult range of the second tagged Osti (in most fleets it should be tag 5). When you are there immediately switch to Occult and shoot it until its dead. - If fleet is really light on numbers, then you do the same, just Occult the Outuni and then Occult the healthiest Osti! -If fleet is really fast, you can just start with Osti! Second pocket: Burn to the second Osties and spool on them. - If fleet is sniper light you should burn to 2nd Antem and Occult it. If you are super-sniper light then i guess you need to shoot the Mara as well before Antems. Remember: do not burn much while shooting the Mara, cuz it ruins your tracking. - If fleet is low on numbers then kill Mara and then Occult the second Osti. -If fleet is really fast, you can just start with Osti! Third pocket: - First wave: Spool on Osties. When there are only 2 Osties left (or when FC says) burn to your one and only anchor spot which should be 80 km from beacon and 20 km to the left from the tower (exactly where the last VVV spot is). Important!!! Don't shoot the last tagged Osti (usually tag 9 or Z). If super-sniper light you might need to help out with killing the Mara at the beginning of this wave. - Second wave: Start with the second to last Osti tag. Again, its important to not shoot the last, wave trigger Osti (9 or Z)! After it goes poof you can help out with killing Romies or just spool on something that you think is best (except the wave trigger). If fleet is light on numbers you should primary the Intaki and then go business as usual. - Third wave: Spool on Osties, then whatever is left. You should try to even kill the very last frig on grid if that's the only thing preventing you from tower bash. After tower spawns Occult it, drone it and enjoy your bio! Nation Rebirth Facility (NRF) First Wave: Burn to Ostis and kill them. When you can, switch to Occult! When it dies find the next best thing to spool on. When there is only 2 Battleships left (or when FC says so) burn to your first anchor spot: 90 km from beacon, 50 km to the right from tower. Just about 20-ish km from AAA. The goal is to be in Occult range of the spawning Yulais. - If light on snipers then you might need to help out with Vylade(s) or even with Mara(s) as well. - If light on DPS then change your anchoring to roughly around DPS anchor spot cuz you gonna shoot Osties next wave! Second wave: Occult Yulais! Preferably backwards, but you should start shooting them even if there are no tags yet. Remember, spooling time is everything for this ship! When Yulais are dying shoot whatever is left and burn to next DPS anchor spot (you can look for VVV guide or for the actual on-site VVV for help). - If fleet is light on DPS or sniper heavy then you should shoot Osties backwards in this wave. Third wave: Occult Yulais first, then whatever is left! If there are only 3 ships left on grid you should start burning to VVV last anchor spot. Rough positioning is enough (say +-5 or 10 km doesn't matter) Fourth wave: This is when it becomes a little bit tricky. you can easily find yourself out of position in this wave. Don't worry about it too much. Unless fleet is light on numbers you should primary either Osties (DPS need help) or Yulais (Snipers need help). - Stay about 30km to AAA to ensure you are still in logi range and Occult Osties or Shoot Yulais with whatever ammo you can reach them. - If fleet is DPS light or you have faith in Snipers to finish the job without you then you should simply shoot Osties backwards with Occult of course. - If fleet is low on numbers you should shoot Outunies, then Intakies. After that Osties. Remember: never stop shooting until payout, please! True Creations Research Center (TCRC) After entrance spool on Outunis and start burning to the tower. Be careful to not be completely out of logi range due to early burning! In all fairness that's actually pretty hard to achieve in this site. Nevertheless you should better check! After Outunis died Occult the tower ASAP and never stop until it blows up. You should sit next to Vindicators nice and close, zero on the Tower for reasons you can find in one of my posts in this thread. In case of jam you re-spool on the tower and cry silently (F). When tower hits 50% hull lock up the warp disrupting ships (usually just Schmaels and Auga). At 20% hull you should recall drones and start to align to your FC's broadcast. After tower start shooting the "scrams". When "scrams are clear" and your FC tells you to warp you leave the site with the rest of the battleships. Be super careful in this site! Chances are if you are doing everything correctly, then at some point there will be a huge agro switch onto you! On-time broadcast is essential to stay alive in a TCRC! The Kundalini Manifest (MOM) After entrance you start burning to the Kundi and start shooting The first tagged Outuni if present. If not then the first tagged Arnon. If there are no Outunis and no Arnons then i guess you can try to shoot the Bombers while you are burning to the Kundalini. Do Not Bump It Pretty Please! Should keep at range 15 km! When you are in Occult range you start spooling on it ASAP. Its really important, because your ship is literally designed for something big, like this. In case of jam you start to shoot the Kundalini again. You never stop shooting it until its dead. And then enjoy the payout. ADVANCED TIPS: I would like to point out that you already spent a huge amount of ISK to get this ship into WTM. So while you are at it you should probably go all the way and do the bling properly. Pimp it out as much as possible! This of course includes Abyssal Rad Sinks (at the very least 23% increase or more), and Augmented Ogres! T2 Rad Sinks are pretty bad and Factions are super expensive. So your best bet is a nice Abyssal Sink. The only modules not really important in this ship are the utility high slots. In case of a contest you can go really crazy with overheating your gun cuz this ship can actually take it. A lot will depend on you when it comes to a TCRC contest! Try to shoot the tower as soon as possible and try to overload all the way! Be careful tho', you really don't want to burn your gun out. You can equip a Mobile Depot and a local Sensor Booster with ECCM Script into your cargo hold. When it comes to TCRC tower bash after burning into position you can drop the Depot, switch your MWD to the SeBo and try to resist those Niarja jams. BE AWARE! You need to refit again switching back the MWD when the tower is at 50% hull. Also don't forget to scoop your Depot before you start aligning out! A lot of possible mistakes come with this, so you need your A-Game, or don't even try it. You can go full-on nuts and get several guns into your cargo hold and just switch them when they are close to burning out. Only possible with a friendly Orca/Nestor around or at the very beginning of a TPPH tower bash with an earlier deployed Depot. This way you don't have to go to a Citadel every time you overheated your gun. You can paste the utility high modules, but the gun would be too expensive. Never stop thinking about what else you could do to improve! I'm pretty sure there are plenty other tips and tricks with this ship, but i should probably stop for now. My personal take on recommended implants (disclaimer: it's not going to be cheap, but it also won't be "ultra-high end"): High-grade Ascendancy Alpha (player market) High-grade Ascendancy Beta (player market) High-grade Ascendancy Gamma (player market) High-grade Ascendancy Delta (player market) High-grade Ascendancy Epsilon (player market) Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Warp Drive Speed WS-618 (available in Concord LP Store) Ogdin's Eye Coordination Enhancer (player market) Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-806 (available in Concord LP Store) Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Gunnery RF-906 (available in Concord LP Store) There is really no useful implant here for a shield Leshak so far, only an armor buffer: Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1006. Would not really recommend to buy this for a WTM fleet. Hoping for a weapon +6% damage sometime in the future but i doubt its happening. Updates: 1. Leshak's tracking is not as good with t2 ammo as it was when i originally wrote this. Shooting a frig with t2 ammo is actually painful now. 2. Thankfully there are more Leshaks nowadays in fleet than just 1 or 2. So in NRF you might want to think about splitting in-fleet Leshaks between Yulais and Osties.3. Logies are recommended to bring light combat drones now, so at least one remote armor repper would be pretty cool and recommended on each Leshak. 4. With... -SS patch -Leshak agility nerf -all the WTM upgrade policies and addons to it -all the contests going on ...Leshaks are less and less actually useful for fleet, unless you spend at the very least 6 billion on it, but probably more. And you could just fly a 4 bil vindi and be simply more useful generally all the time. Of course there are some exceptions (when you have 10+ newbro/rookie/metagun) to this, but most of the times it is true. Granted, it is more effort. Harder, sure. And again sometimes people want variety, which is okay. Okay... This has gotten much bigger than i thought it would. Sorry about that. If anything else comes to my mind i will adjust / remove / add things if and when i feel like it. Feel free to share your own thoughts below!
  10. niki's take on the WTM Leshak

    Also Orange colour, as in "on fire".
  11. niki's take on the WTM Leshak

    This was actually a Leshak. 3% Hull.
  12. niki's take on the WTM Leshak

  13. Proposal: Kronos and Vargur Drones

    Light drones dont kill frigates. Guns do.
  14. niki's Capsprey Guide for HQ sites

    I mean i did not want to name names, but now that you mentioned Nick...
  15. niki's Capsprey Guide for HQ sites

    Upon recent events i decided to give 2 different options on how to anchor:
  16. niki's Capsprey Guide for HQ sites

    Update: new fit for the Shieldtank version. For more speed to match faster sitetimes, easier to not be out of position. [Osprey, Capsprey Shieldtank] Damage Control II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Multispectrum Shield Hardener II 50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive EM Shield Amplifier II Corpii A-Type Small Remote Capacitor Transmitter Corpii A-Type Small Remote Capacitor Transmitter Corpii A-Type Small Remote Capacitor Transmitter Corpii A-Type Small Remote Capacitor Transmitter Corpii A-Type Small Remote Capacitor Transmitter Medium Thermal Shield Reinforcer I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
  17. Marauder Stuff From the Field

    Depends on a lot of things obviously (fleetcomp, fleet quality, spawn size), but in a common NRF setup usually Paladins and Vargurs have to shoot Antems and Yulais to make sure that they are dying fast enough and the site goes quickly. Otherwise probably Snipers gonna fall behind.
  18. niki's Capsprey Guide for HQ sites

    2 things that came up today : keep at range 1km on the booster, and make sure that it is actually the primary booster.
  19. niki's take on the WTM Leshak

  20. Multi-Boxing - 3 Accounts

    Boxing is not allowed in WTM, unless the Waitlist is empty or very very thin. If that is the case then multi-boxing and its forms are always current Voice FC's full discretion.
  21. DPS Numbers for Optimal Hulls

    "What is my goal to reach?" People were asking about DPS numbers for Optimal Hulls (Fits) over and over again. Here are your minimum numbers to reach, Ladies and Gentlemen. Disclaimer -These are not by far the end-game numbers. These are minimum numbers to reach, and say: "Nice, you are really useful for a fleet with your boat!" -There are a lot of pilots who already are well over these numbers. For them i just want to say: Thank You! -Achieving these minimum numbers is one thing. Learning how to use it effectively is another. Learn how to anchor yourself, learn how to use your ship and its modules (including guns / cap transfers / MWD / webs / tracking comps) effectively! -The numbers below do include drone damage ('Augmented' Ogre), but exclude overloading and boosters (cold and sober). Vindicator: 2400 DPS (Void L) Nightmare: 1600 DPS (Conflagration L) Leshak: 1350 DPS (Occult L without spooling) - i do realize this is by far the hardest to reach out of the 3, but it is with good reason. Obviously these numbers can change with game patches in the future. I'll try to keep track.
  22. DPS Numbers for Optimal Hulls

    I need a NM for the weekend
  23. DPS Numbers for Optimal Hulls

    I presume you are missing implants, on that pyfa, @Anemone221?
  24. DPS Numbers for Optimal Hulls

    ^Sounds about right. But honestly i am not too worried about that, since ppl who want to get better eventually will. And there is no real end to bling and damage. Its just a matter of how much are you willing to spend on it.
  25. DPS Numbers for Optimal Hulls

    Read the post ? ;3