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  4. Raw convo about DDD

    Hey guys. I had a random convo on Slack the other day asking me to give out my POV about the DDD role. As per usual it triggered me (in a good way this time) and i got drawn into the convo more and more, turning it into one of those hour-long teaching moments of mine. It is a really raw copy-pasted format and kind of "niki-blunt" . But maybe it turned out to be something sharing worthy. If its useful for you then im glad. But im not really looking for anything else with this topic. I just wanted to share. Without further comment here is the convo itself: Anonymous [6:12 AM] You're probably offline atm, but any advice / suggestions on DDD after tonight? niki [6:13 AM] could you copy your fit here Anonymous [6:20 AM] [Vindicator, Vindication] Damage Control II Domination Tracking Enhancer Domination Tracking Enhancer Abyssal Magnetic Field Stabilizer Abyssal Magnetic Field Stabilizer Abyssal Magnetic Field Stabilizer Abyssal Magnetic Field Stabilizer 500MN Abyssal Microwarpdrive Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Abyssal Stasis Webifier Abyssal Stasis Webifier Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Neutron Blaster Cannon II Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Large Hybrid Burst Aerator II Ogre II x5 Null L x5180 Nanite Repair Paste x500 Void L x10036 Agency 'Pyrolancea' DB3 Dose I x17 niki [6:21 AM] so whats the abyssals strength and % ? i mean range and strength % Anonymous [6:21 AM] what do you mean range? niki [6:22 AM] web range and web strength Anonymous [6:22 AM] the webs are 15.5km each and 82.7,81.4% web niki [6:22 AM] the web Anonymous [6:22 AM] (on the vindi, of course) niki [6:22 AM] gal bship 5 or 4 ? Anonymous [6:23 AM] (base strength is ~63% each) gallente 5 niki [6:23 AM] 15+ kms and 60+ % webs are pretty awesome to ddd with. and minmatar bship level? Anonymous [6:23 AM] only 3 =/ niki [6:23 AM] yeah so 2 things first and foremost get faction (cal navy is the most common to use) antimatter its better than nul whenever the frigs are closer than 20 km and its always better than void if its frig shooting 2nd thing get minmatar bship to 4 at least 5 would be better ofc also needless to say gunnery support skills and blaster spec is important too Anonymous [6:26 AM] all support at 5, blaster spec 4 niki [6:26 AM] thats pretty good... obviously all relevant skills on 5 would be best with the suggested implants included as well for vindis. that is the high-end. Anonymous [6:26 AM] (just bumped min BS to 4) niki [6:28 AM] gameplay wise i split my guns 4-4. if you kill one maybe you can spare 4 guns for the next which is a huge deal. webbing 2 different frigs shoot 1 until it dies shoot the other one but meanwhile start webbing a 3rd cuz you need the webs to actually apply. essentially you always need 1 more frig to be already webbed so you can instablap it or close to doing so. dont forget to always fill your locks thats actually one of the biggest mistakes a battleship can do. specially true for DDD. you can tell that you are doing a good job if you always feel like you are racing with yourself. guns vs webs. a close race. Anonymous [6:29 AM] ok. I've tried doing that in the past, but I've worried about wasting the drone effort, with them continually chasing new targets. but then, the drones are just bonus anyway... niki [6:29 AM] forget the drones. they dont exist. Anonymous [6:29 AM] ok niki [6:29 AM] just trust in yourself. you can do it without drones. and if you train yourself then after a while it doesnt matter if you dont have any drones. in some fleets you actually will lack light drones anyway. relying on them is a mistake imo. they are just a little extra/bonus. Anonymous [6:30 AM] tonight, I did have my guns split, but I wasn't leapfrogging targets. I was staggering webs and guns though, so I'd have a new half more often niki [6:30 AM] try to not burn too much around . just some cuz it ruins your tracking. Anonymous [6:30 AM] right I did notice that niki [6:31 AM] if the frigs are not on the way where you are needed to go and more than 20 kms away then just stop, load null and hope for best. if you are not moving your tracking is much better. sometimes ppl will pull the frigs away. if its temporary then dont even switch to null cuz in 20 seconds they are going to burn back anyway. if you feel like its gonna be more than 20-30 sec then switch to null. if the frigs are actually on your way then try to burn just 1 cycle and then slowboat and stop when they are in webrange the drones are actually helpful when you cant reach out with webs and you are shooting with null cuz then it takes ~10+ sec to kill 1 frig you can try to overheat web if you feel like you are behind on the schedule and you need just a few extra kms to reach out. webs dont burn out easily and just a few paste is enough to rep them while in warp Anonymous [6:34 AM] ok niki [6:34 AM] and they stop overheating after the frig dies anyway TPPH all first waves i'd burn 1 cycle to exitgates or anchorspot . then slow down and if you are in webrange stop NRF is easiest site as DDD just gotta make sure you have a good tempo in first 2 waves TCRC is an interesting site you can try go greedy kill schmaels before you reach the tower but its actually hard to complete . and also sometimes you need to switch to niarjas anyway or just try to kill niarjas only, burn into position and then try to schmael at the tower. somewhere in between is still fairly easy Anonymous [6:38 AM] yea, I was doing something in between tonight on the TCRC niki [6:38 AM] in tpph i always try to kill schmaels first cuz its easiest to web the first few frigs before aggro switch, and schmaels are hardest to kill as far as frigs go also forget about acronyms if you cant reach some frig with webs, always target the one that you actually can. webs are ensuring you gonna kill that frig really really fast if its not webbed its gonna die significantly slower. so range is more important than some "shooting order". except ofc if FC wants to bounce from site then scrams are priority. if i can choose freely cuz a lot of frigs are in range and we are not bouncing i prio webbers whenever i can (1st schmael 2nd renyn) cuz it helps the fleet the most. but obviously niarja must die first, no matter what. Anonymous [6:40 AM] right niki [6:40 AM] but yeah antimatter is a great help. nowadays i do 8k null 10k anti the rest void in vindi shoot antimatter most times, null if you need to constantly kill frigs more than 20 kms away . void is okay in tpph last wave and nrf 3rd 4th wave cuz you shoot only very few frigs in those. you have tons of time and you will probably be on top of them and you can web them anyway. and in those waves you will shoot cruiser or bship too Anonymous [6:43 AM] ok niki [6:43 AM] in tcrc i usually switch to void after all the schmaels are dead and im just chilling shooting tower and looking for respawner niarja niarja is a really easy frig to kill. Anonymous [6:44 AM] yea, the niarja blap easy niki [6:45 AM] tough frigs order : schmael >>> eystur > renyn >>> tama >>> niarja hardest to easiest to kill. (not a shooting order ofc, lol) Anonymous [6:46 AM] ok thanks for all this. I'll keep at it. hopefully I have more opportunities to take DDD =P niki [6:49 AM] no problem its fun. i actually enjoy ddd in tpph. otherwise its a pretty boring site. but i still really enjoy doing even that one if i can snatch ddd Anonymous [6:50 AM] yea. it was fun to race the rest of the fleet niki [6:56 AM] oh and always ask for 2xtracking . if they offer a 3rd ask for 1 range. but 1 tr 1 opti is not as good as 2xtr no matter who says what. Anonymous [4:17 PM] ok. one other question is if there's ever anything other than frigates that the DDD shoots before frigates? Like does the DDD follow full fleet calls for the Arnon/Outuni in TPPH 3rd-3rd, the Mara/Vylade in NRF 3rd and Outuni in 4th, and the Outuni in TCRC? I'm pretty sure the HHH does follow those calls (right?) but what about DDD? niki [5:07 PM] for DDD tpph 3rd 3rd shoot 2nd outuni then frigs . nrf 3rd mara(s) then frigs , nrf 4th vylade , except if there are 3 outunis. then the 3rd outuni . TCRC niarjas are more important to shoot than the 2 outuni. if niarjas are down you can shoot 2nd outuni if you want but fleet should be pretty close to kill them. HHH : TPPH 3rd 3rd you should shoot second outuni then leftover romi then reverse tags. NRF 3rd you should shoot mara(s) then reverse order romis. NRF 4th vylade , except if there are 3 outunis. then the 3rd outuni . TCRC you should not have any drones assigned, so you are just a vindi, not HHH. shoot in order. Anonymous [5:10 PM] ok, cool
  5. Abyssal Entropic Radiation Sink

    Hope you get some good deeps out of it!
  6. Abyssal Entropic Radiation Sink

    Sold to WTM fleet runner . (traded for a gecko ) Generous dps increase donation for wtm fleet Thanks
  7. How do you benchmark fits?

    Also if you have an idea for a ship, and it isn't on our approved list, but can hit the fitting requirements, keep an eye out for fun fleets. It will be allowed at the fun fleet! (per FC Discretion).
  8. Abyssal Entropic Radiation Sink

    Hey guys, Selling this bad boy. 800M 20% cheaper then the usual contracts if not sold ill sell it on contracts but rather seed it here at WTM first. 36.11CPU 1.144DMG 7.6%Rate of Fire.
  9. Abyssal Heat Sinks

    Hey there Nightmare pilots, ever felt like you could use more DPS? I offer you 30,9% DPS bonus (almost maxed RoF) at 1,8bil and 29,5% DPS (with good CPU) at 1,2bil. Feel free to mail me ingame with offers etc. Regards, Ferden
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  11. Abyssal Entropic Rad Sinks

    Hey, i got a few abyssal entropics for sale for our Leshak Bros Contact me via EVE MAIL, or convo Anarion Highborn - 15% discount for WTM Buyers! All contracts are up under Saleen Caledra, accept the contract and evemail me and ill send back 15% of cost! Sink 1: Mod 1.128 ROF 8.31% CPU 34.96 Price 450m Sink 2: Mod 1.136 ROF 7,38% CPU 32.98 Price 155m Sink 3: Mod 1.138 ROF 7,46% CPU 38,18 Price 155m Sink 4: Mod 1.121 ROF 7,10% CPU 38,89 Price 100m Sink 5: Mod 1.124 ROF 7.03% CPU 35,49 Price 85m
  12. Den Talidar

    Ladies and Gentlemen; A rather large bear hug and thank you to all those who have expressed their sympathies for this. Mother was a vibrant human, if she did not like you she made it known as the opposite was true as well. Made friends wherever she was. When a stroke hit her, some years ago, her health was a roller coaster. 44 years as a wife, 43 years as a mother or two boys and young at heart individual. Time has been rough on me and my father this past week but the timing could not have been better as it was World Pride in NYC and throughout the world when she passed on and that is the memory that will make me smile...That She Rode Off Into The Blue, Riding A Rainbow. Again, Much Gratitude to everyone that sent well wishes through here or ingame. The energy is still being felt as one writes this. Remember: Keep smiling and look forward as the memories are in the past to guide us toward the future. ~Talidar
  13. How do you benchmark fits?

    WTM is always very careful about adding new hulls to the list. Usually tons of testing is done beforehand. Sometimes even if the ship meets hard requirements WTM decides to not allow it because of other reasons (just some examples: movement speed / shield EHP / price / performance).
  14. How do you benchmark fits?

    Just to add to that, some of the WTM people have been doing incursions for a long time and I believe have tested what does and doesn't work. They have definitely isk-tanked incursions so we have the fits we do and the knowledge we do
  15. How do you benchmark fits?

    Thats great thanks for the response.
  16. How do you benchmark fits?

    So this is right off our rules and regulations document so it sounds sort of dry sorry Battleship Tank Requirements All Battleships must meet or exceed 70% in all shield resistances without Command Bursts. Calculated via Fitting tool with Omni-incoming damage profile and character with all Lvl 5 skills. All Battleships must be capable of reaching 100,000 Effective Hit Points (EHP) without Command Bursts. 100,000 EHP is an approximate number, not a hard rule. Calculated via Fitting tool with Omni-incoming damage profile and character with all Lvl 5 skills. All Defensive modules must meet or exceed the stats of the Tech II variant. Thermal midslots are not permitted. Pithum B/Gistum A-type Invulnerability Fields are required, at minimum, for “Single Invuln” fits (invuln, EM ward amp, thermal rig, CDFE). Resist bonused hulls(Rokh/Rattlesnake) may use Pithum C-type if the pilot has Caldari Battleship trained to Lvl 4. All Battleships must use Meta 1 500MN Microwarpdrives, at minimum; excluding the Nightmare. Meta 1 is any MWD that is not Tech 1 i.e. Quad LiF/Cold-Gas. The minimum speed for Nightmares running Afterburners is 650 m/s without Command Bursts. Ships should not be “overtanked” unless under influence.
  17. I'm wondering how WTM bosses benchmark fits and decide which should and shouldn't be flown in WTM fleets, do you have specific benchmark parameters that each ship fit needs to meet before it's deemed worthy to be added to the Incursion fit site?
  18. Den Talidar

    Deepest sympathies for your loss mate.
  19. New Bro Speech Addition?

    I mention it right after they broadcast in position. I say something along the lines of how you just broadcasted in position is similar to how you would broadcast for shields, from the window, always keep it up and open. Always avoid broadcasting hotkeys like the plague. Then I ramble on for about 65 more minutes about the importance of Beer in the diet. Nevertheless, plus one do what John said.
  20. I'm back?!?

    Who is this Xoceac? Never heard of her.
  21. Scheduled Triglavian Invasion Science Fleets

    ^^ see above, except 2nd of july and focus will probably be Deninard
  22. Den Talidar

    I am so sorry for your loss Den. If you need anything, or want to talk, you know where to find me. Juan.
  23. Den Talidar

    my sincere condolances. as someone who lost his own mother back in 02 i know exactly what you're going through.
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  25. Den Talidar

    I'm really sorry to hear about your loss Den!
  26. Den Talidar

    Yesterday our own @Den Talidar suffered the lost of his mother. As someone whos called him a friend for years my heart breaks for him. Sparta has generiously thrown me isk for 3 months of plex and i am opening the donation basket for anyone who would like to chip in. any donations can be sent to my alt Logan Toruk. i am accepting isk and plex in all shapes sizes and amounts. Its times like this that wtm never lets me down and we help hold up folks when they need it the most. Den is a past officer and has been a commander off and on for about 4y. Sandman
  27. Scheduled Triglavian Invasion Science Fleets

    Time & Date: 1st july 2019, whenever Sarevok has had breakfast (probably around 7:00, maybe earlier) Comms: WTM Teamspeak Doctrine: Shield Accepted Ships: Basilisks, T2/T3 cruiser, WTM battleships, other battleships along those lines Dockup: Whatever invasion that doesn't have status "scouts reported" is closest to the latest incursion dock-up (currently Silen) Content: Looking for large roaming fleets and major conduits. Will do Adjacent and Minor if we don't have enough basilisks. Goals: Have fun, make ISK. Please note: I've changed the recommended basi in the Warp to me Invasions channel to be more easily refitted from WTM fits. (just add T2 invulns)
  28. WTB scimi

    sure thing ! I dont mind the travel, i do some project discovery on the way in
  29. Logi School

    I’ve been running one late night us tz every time we’ve been waiting on a focus to spawn (except one, I was out of town) the timing is fluid because of that though. There should be some scheduled ones coming up though.
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